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[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Magnora, this is just ignorance and embarrassing. Police departments generally DO have exactly that. It's called the "continuum of force", and many states also mandate warnings that were often already in place anyway. With many deliberately clipped snippets of footage, you don't see relevant context. Namely (a) What the officer was called for (possible weapon, felony, violence, gun, active warrants, etc), (b) What the officer did beforehand (verbal warnings, commands, attempted restraint, etc), and (c) Failure of alternatives to work (Tasers have this lovely habit of doing nothing).

I find myself utterly flabbergasted I've gone from criticizing the police and demanding national standards and national funding/training requirements, to somehow needing to defend them from utterly irrational and baseless propaganda. At least learn what the fuck reality is before you try to criticize it.

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Sometimes it's justified, rarely, but there are many times a month someone is killed by police who was not in any way a danger to anyone. Look up wellness check murders. The idea what I said is "baseless propaganda," is in reality just you ignoring documented facts.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

c o n t e x t. Do you know what causes most people to call the police for "wellness" checks? (a) Active suicide threat where the person is known AND REPORTED TO THE POLICE to have a weapon, (b) Psychiatric conditions that can (often do) result in violence (and see also weapons), (c) Drug overdose or addictions otherwise unspecified that also have a nasty tendency to result in violence (and variously taser immunity with enough meth). You can't just take a category of something, declare it wrong by default or fiat, and smugly assert universal truth. As a critic of the police I GO OUT OF MY WAY to investigate those so-called documented facts, I even listen to the police, and youtube channels by former or current police, because if you do not understand something you absolutely have no hope in hell of fixing it.

Seriously. You're ignorant as fuck on this, and that ignorance is outrageously typical. If you want to improve the world you first need to understand it. A cursory glancing understanding steeped in media lies and bias, and the media will outright make shit the fuck up about these cases, is nowhere near sufficient.

[–]againstsinglemother2 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Careful, he will ban you

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I've had several discussions with Magnora. I'm not insulting him nor am I an obnoxious conspiracy theorist nor white supremacist. In fact, I am entirely on his side, but it's precisely for the reason the police need reform that the facts ESPECIALLY matter. Otherwise the reforms undertaken will NOT have the intended beneficial effects. Sort of akin to how, under the glorious new socialist regime in Russia, crime evaporated. According to the propaganda. In reality it was terrifying. And we, if we ignore reality, will repeat those mistakes.

[–]againstsinglemother2 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I think you're the one who misses a lot of dick here, for defending a XY who's the same shit like all the others, in a RADFEM sub. Are you even aware of how stupid you sound? Even women who aren't feminists know deep down, in their instincts, that men are all the same. And then you dumb down yourself to coddle and protect your almighty dad. He's just as gross as every other man, DEAL WITH IT. He has a penis, an Y chromosome and testosterone and was born in the same patriarchal shit all men are born. DEAL. WITH.IT.

I understand this is a high cope, but stop with the handmaiden dumbassery, you look like a fucking clown.