BLM donations go to ActBlue, which then funds democratic candidates for president

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[–]LockeDemosthenes 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

This is not true. While very sketchy that BLM refuses to reveal where they are spending their money, using actblue as an intermediary between BLM and donors doesn't have anything to do with other campaigns or charities that also use actblue. Focus on real, verified things such as BLMs manifesto on their website detailing their goal of eliminating 'the western nuclear family.'

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

goal of eliminating 'the western nuclear family.'

This has already successful in the black community (over 90% raised without a father); I guess they are trying to inflict the same "progress" on whites.

[–]kissfan7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Can you clarify the source for that 90% statistic. I can't find it on Google.

EDIT: Found a source that says 65%.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Sorry, it was 72% for black children. I was thinking of interracial white/black children which is like 92%.

https://blackcommunitynews.com/72-percent-documentary-on-fatherless-black-children/

[–]kissfan7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Do you have a source for the 92% number?

Also, we should note that the Moynihan Reports conclusions are debatable.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sure, it's been killed by the powers that be (counter to the narrative), but an archive exists.

https://archive.is/g85sz

[–]Desdinova 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I looked in to this a week or so ago when it started making the rounds. If you read the terms and follow how the links work, the BLM site goes to an Act Blue payment page, which then takes a portion for processing (can't recall how much) then sends the money to BLM. They probably do this with a wide range of lefty sites.

BLM probably regrets this now that the dough is rolling in, but at the time they set it up it was probably easier than maintaining their own payment portal.

But it looks like they are up front about it, I don't see what would be illegal. The fact that Act Blue sends money to candidates has no connection.

[–]stormy_waters2021 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I agree. Presently there is not enough information to say what happens to the money. Just a small percentage going to ActBlue isn't a big deal, I think people are jumping on the "But if they don't claim the money, ActBlue gets it and then gets distributed how they see fit". That would be bad, but you can't prove that is actually happening because there isn't any public information to review.

It would be another thing if there was a direct link to show BLM directly giving money to a political organization because that alone would not allow them to keep their 501(c)(3) status per the IRS.

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But ActBlue is a nonprofit too, so it's fine with the IRS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActBlue

Nonprofits are super-political these days quite frequently, and there's really no checks or balances enforced on that

[–]kissfan7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

https://www.mediamatters.org/fake-news/debunked-conspiracy-theory-about-black-lives-matter-actblue-and-democrats-can-be-traced

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

ActBlue is a payment processor used widely by progressive groups and organizations affiliated with the Democratic Party

I'm not sure that debunks anything, tbh. Plus mediamatters is known to have a hugely left slant, so if course they'd try to downplay this

many candidates use [ActBlue] to process donations but that money isn't pooled to be shared across candidates or groups,” and “a donation to BLM through ActBlue goes just to BLM, not any other group.”

That sentence is what the entire article hinges on. Then they spend 10 more paragraphs painting anyone who disagrees as loons without adding any additional information. I'm still skeptical, and this article didn't actually clear much up tbh. Why does a "payment processor" have such an obvious partisan bias, right in their name?

[–]kissfan7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

justthenews.com has a hugely right slant, so they try to overplay this.

The purpose of the article is not to debunk the conspiracy, but to point out it's origins.

Also, you should quote the whole sentence.

ActBlue is a payment processor used widely by progressive groups and organizations affiliated with the Democratic Party and the Republican Party has an equivalent processing company called WinRed.

Emphasis added.

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

the Republican Party has an equivalent processing company called WinRed.

Yes that may be true, but it's not the center of a national controversy right now

[–]kissfan7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Pretty sure political parties (especially the GOP) are always part of national controversies.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes but ActBlue is actively involved in an ongoing one that is taking over almost all the media. Both are probably corrupt

[–]ThePlague 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A great deal of money can be made and funneled via charities. The Clintons built an empire on it.

[–]FuckBiden 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

How is that corruption? They aren't going to donate to right wing candidates if they want to do nothing to hold cops accountable.

[–]magnora7[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yes but why not fund lobby groups to reform police misconduct law, rather than just vaguely give it to one political party who doesn't care much either

[–]FuckBiden 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's a good point. I think they are in the US vs them mentality at this moment as the dems have been giving BLM lip service they will pick them and aren't thinking next level. But then again the outrage may spark change anyways.

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hope so. I think some people in power are getting a little worried, so they might feel forced to pass some laws that improve the situation for the common person, in order to maintain their positions of power. I think that sort of pressure works.

[–]skiseme 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I also agree with this. However the police is also very powerful in terms of funding and politics, so instead of another "weaker" lobbying entity it might be more sensible to do it through a more powerful political party.

[–]Tarrock 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

People think this money is going toward pro black charities when it reality, it's going to the whitest candidate in the race.

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yes, people think they're supporting Black Lives, and in reality, they're giving money to the old white guy who literally said "If you don't vote democrat, then you ain't black!"

[–]comments 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

isn't "old white guy" when used this way meant to be an anti-white slur? as in "old dead white men" to describe historical figures and their significant contributions?

there's nothing wrong with biden being old, or white -- his problem is his pandering and exploitive behavior. it would be a problem whatever his age or race.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You're right, the exploitative behavior is the problem. There's nothing wrong with being old or white, it's just weird that the organization that is supposedly going to fix things for black lives... is a white guy.

It'd be like if the President of India was a Chinese guy. I'd have questions. It just kind of doesn't make sense because he doesn't really represent the demographic asking for representation

[–]comments 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

yeah I get why pointing out his non-black race is relevant here, it just sounded slur-like since pointing out his age wasn't. I get that people just say what comes naturally from what they've heard, but if it's just subconscious that's when it's good to bring it to conscious awareness, right?

anyway it was a tangent, but I felt bad about not saying anything when I've been trained to in similar circumstances for every other racial group except whites. so I didn't want to just be silent since I do have a voice.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fair enough

[–]FuckBiden 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you don't vote for Biden then you ain't black!

[–]hydr0lyze 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I guess this is going to make us... Act Blue.

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    [–]comments 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

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    [–]Sebine 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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