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[–]magnora7 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

I've been calling out this thing with Biden's son being put on the board of energy of the Ukraine for a while, since before it became an issue with Trump. It blows my mind that Trump calling for investigations of obvious collusion, is itself met with accusations of collusion.

What's the bigger collusion, that Trump asked for some quid-pro-quo about investigating corruption, or that Biden has literally made his son nearly the head of the energy sector for the entire country of Ukraine? It's obvious the latter is the bigger corruption.

I'm not a huge Trump fan, but the hypocrisy of these people is astounding. And now we see Pelosi may be involved too. So many palms being greased. Disgustingly corrupt.

[–]Tiwaking 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

Its not exactly quid-pro-quo. The Democrats had been trying (i.e. PAYING) to prevent the Ukrainian corruption investigations. Donald Trump used one of the most powerful forms of leverage he could to force the investigations to continue: The military aid.

Now: If it was quid-pro-quo then that would mean Donald Trump KNEW that the Democrats had agents siphoning money from Ukraine companies.

But if he knew the Democrats were corrupt, then he would be correct in using all the powers at his disposal to uncover the corruption.

If he DIDNT know the Democrats were involved, then he would have been the luckiest person on the planet who just happened to uncover a massive scandal.

This is why you hear jokes about Donald Trump playing "4D Chess" and such. Its because one can only be so lucky before you realize that the person you are playing against is an expert.

Or a Grandmaster.

The Impeachment processes was the final nail in the Democratic parties integrity. I guess they were trying to blame the Senate for stalling the process but Donald Trump called them out on this as well by telling them to hurry up and hand over the articles of impeachment for proper investigation.

4D Chess Grandmaster

edit: This is also why I am interested to see what people who dont like Trump have to say because the normal view is what the media tells you is true.

[–]beermeem 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

25 D Chess

[–]RuckFeddit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

72D interstellar backgammon

[–]useless_aether[S] 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

WD40

[–]Tiwaking 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

WD40

THE SQUEAKY WHEEL GETS THE GREASE

AND THE DEMOCRATS ARE VERY SQUEAKY

[–]RatherSmallPotato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How do I follow what is actually going on VS what the media wants me to think? I've always seen Trump's genius, but not his political side. I'd love to follow it properly.