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[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Well I guess the main point would be that the ideologies and motivations that created Lenin's Russia still exist to this day, and might be re-creating this trajectory in other governments.

Bolsheviks should be blamed though, not Jews. Because the overwhelming majority of Jews are not Bolsheviks.

However the overwhelming majority of high-level Bolsheviks are Jews, which itself is interesting.

But again, this is a condemnation of Bolsheviks, not Jews, because most Jews are not Bolsheviks. And I really don't like it when people try to "Blame the Jews" because it's a huge category. It's like blaming "white people" for USSR. It's much too broad and doesn't really actually get at anything useful.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Very true, right wing leninists and new modernized trotskyites still exist today. Many of these mass murderers did have children and family who probably still adhere to these backwards ideologies.

and might be re-creating this trajectory in other governments.

And this is why it is important to point out what I've laid out above. I'm tired of people telling me to be quite or hush up when I talk about this.

It is a documentation of Bolsheviks and their ranks which for many years was controlled by atheistic apostate Jews. I should also note, almost no enthnic Russians had any real power during this time, in their own country!! That is important to tell.

The thing is, Judaism is a religion, and in bolshevik Russia they hated religion but these apostate Jews usually didn't harm Jews unless they got in their way or did not adhere to class warfare. The original poster is NOT blaming all Jews, his title says, the Jewish role. However, we first must DEFINE what Judaism is? Is it an ethnicity, a religion, both or a whole lot of things?

So If we call them apostate Jews then we are effectively showing that we are not blaming all Jews, just apostates that classify themselves as Jews and atheist.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

However, we first must DEFINE what Judaism is? Is it an ethnicity, a religion, both or a whole lot of things?

Yes, that's the exact problem. It means 20 different things, so it's important to use much more specific language, and pinpoint actual problem ideologies. This makes the problem actually solvable, instead of it morphing in to a holocaust situation where misdirected anger is put toward scapegoats (which actually ended up benefiting those at the very top during and after WW2). It's very important to use careful terminology, it could be the difference between another holocaust and not having one. The Zionists want nothing more than people hating the Jews (but of course ignoring the Zionists specifically). They can hide in the noise this way.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And I want to say, we are allowed to say they are Jewish, because they identify as Jews. Pointing this out doesn't mean we want to genocide these specific people who call themselves Jews. I am not generalizing that all Jews are like these people who identify as Jews. The good Jew being highly propagandized should see that neconservative Jews are warmongering lunatics and are not good Jews at all, it is a shame that some good Jews call you antisemitic if you point out the crimes of Jews, jsut because they are Jewish. And the existence of Gentiles in positions of power does that invalidate the fact that specific people who identify as Jews, who because of this identification make up less than 2% of the population control a hugely disproportionate amount of influential positions in the media and government. The thing is these people are proud of this and boast about it. Yet, when people point this out they are censored and demonized. And god forbid you publically point out a Zionist warmonger who identifies as a Jew, and your career is ruined.

It is simply an observable fact, nothing to do with shadowy “far-right propaganda” and some amorphous and unnamed figures that apparently are lurking just around the corner.