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[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Complete tangent; don't take this as continuing the discussion please. If anyone wants to continue the discussion on the topic, please reply to the above comment.


there'll always be someone to blame;

Three engineers are working through a checklist for the ocean bridge four architects have designed. This checklist was written by an insert job title here, who consulted seismologists, pedologists and local safety regulations in ensuring that it covers everything. The engineers determine that the bridge meets all the requirements they've been given to sufficient tolerance, and hand it off to the bridge builders. They put the bridge together as the specification demands over the course of 38 months. (It's a big bridge.)

Seven years later, after a large earthquake, the bridge collapses, killing 47 and injuring around 350. It's difficult to discern what the problem was, but it appears that by the time of the collapse the foundations were no longer supporting the bridge.

Who's to blame?

[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'm not an actuary, lawyer, judge, or jury ;-)

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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A formally declared Forum slide inserted above? Hilarious.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But you still think there's somebody to blame? Each individual person did their job right, and the people who designed the system didn't design a flawed system. The world just turned out not to work the way they expected, and their bridge fell down.

[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

'but you still think there's somebody to blame?' Someone always does.

'Each individual person did their job right, and the people who designed the system didn't design a flawed system. The world just turned out not to work the way they expected, and their bridge fell down.' was there loss? If so then there's always someone to blame; ask a lawyer.

Wizz, the responses above, I can give all day long; while you, and others that are here for varying purposes of I guess 'reform', one thing you'll never be able to change is the organic nature of the world. Meaning, when you think you've got it all figured out, it still comes back to bite you in the butt in a way that's usually humbling. To put that into the spin on the bridge, I comprehended from the get go what your point was, but at the same time, you proved mine too.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

but at the same time, you proved mine too.

That's really the measure of a good point, isn't it? I'll have to go away and think about that.