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[–]sawboss 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (50 children)

Jesus was also a Jew, as were:

  • Albert Einstein
  • Niels Bohr
  • Gustav Hertz
  • Richard Feynman
  • Milton Friedman
  • Isaac Asimov
  • Peter S. Beagle
  • Alfred Bester
  • Robert Bloch
  • David Brin
  • Harlan Ellison
  • Bill Finger and Bob Kane
  • Ayn Rand
  • Jerry Siegel
  • R.L. Stien
  • Judith Resnik
  • Ludwig von Mises
  • Murray Rothbard
  • Sandy Pearlman

and scores more you should have heard of, as well as thousands more who have notable accomplishments.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (23 children)

I'm quite sure many of those were limited hangouts, intentionally or not.

I've dated 3 girls named Rachel, Rachelle, and Raquel, all jews, among others. I've had LOTS of Jewish friends, coworkers, and employers. I even lived in Williamsburg Broolyn for a while.. I've prolly known many folks who were Jews and I didn't even know it. My Uncle-in-Law is Jewish, originally from Kingston, then Winnipeg for decades, and is a professor at the University of Newfoundland - so my cousins are half Jewish. So far a I know they don't practice any of it. We never talk about it. It's not an issue. I've rarely talked about it with any of these other folks too.

I've learned more about it on the Interwebs in the last few years about it than my entire life. But I'm not learning about Jews. I'm learning about very specific Zionists.

This distinction MUST be made...

Zionism, Wahhabism, and NeoCons are the worst ideologies of allied totalitarian globalists.

Judaism, Islam, and Christianity have their crazies like any and all religions, but we need to be clear, they are NOT all Zionists, Wahhabists, nor NeoCons.

Don't paint all Jews with their evils. Most Jews are just as brainwashed, if not more than the rest of humanity, to be Zionist human shields and collateral victims.

[–]wizzwizz4 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

And note that these Bolsheviks weren't Zionists. (I bet some of them even thought they were doing the right thing.) Also note that Lenin was in charge, and then Stalin was in charge.

Mensheviks Forever!

[–]Jesus[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, they were not Zionists. It's odd. You can mention Zionists all you want here, but once you mention a Bolshevik Jew, people swoop in full force to compare other peoples, Nations and religions. Stalin did later on purge the Bolsheviks and the comintern as he thought it would destabilze the nation. Many Bolsheviks wanted world revolution, Stalin advocated for rearmament and planning to conquer. He was much more rash in his strategy initially.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

as he thought it would destabilze the nation.

Read: thought it'd lose him power. Lenin's Last Will and Testament (which, like virtually everything affected by Stalin's revisionist approach to history, is of questionable authenticity) advocated for removing Stalin from his position and appointing Trotsky as his successor.

In the end, Trotsky was exiled from the entire country, Stalin came into power and killed or banished everyone else, and then Trotsky was stabbed in the head with an icepick.


(To answer your titular question: no, it's not anti-Semitic, but it encourages such behaviours in others. You're not to blame for that, but depending on your priorities it might be wise not to make such statements unless actually relevant to something.)

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

Where did the Bolsheviks get their money?

Stop responding to my comments.

[–]Jesus[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Actually, Germany gave a lot of Bolsheviks money to revolt against Russia to destabilze her so she wouldn't enter the war. I remember reading a diary from a banker, not Jewish, who sent over millions to these Bolsheviks who later regretted it, saying it was the biggest misake of his life.

[–]wizzwizz4 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

A chunk of it was from Germany, because supporting the Bolsheviks helped get Russia out of WWI. It came with Stalin Lenin (I'm an idiot) on a train, iirc. I'm not sure of all of the places they got money from when they were coming to power, but once they came to power they got it from Russians.


Why should I stop responding to your comments? You respond to mine, too. It's not like I'm seeking you out or anything.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (10 children)

YOU are annoying as fuck when you DON'T THINK before you shoot your stupid ideas at people SO that's why you FUCKing piss everyone OFF!

So fucking use your brain or stop fucking responding. I don't expect the former so fuck right off.

[–]wizzwizz4 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I don't understand what you're telling me not to do. I can back these "stupid ideas" up with evidence; I've got an exam on this in a few days.

Though, after some checking (and noticing that I accidentally wrote "Stalin" instead of "Lenin" in the comment above; sorry!) I am not so sure that Lenin actually did receive funding from Germany. They arranged for him to arrive in Petrograd in a sealed train carriage because they thought he'd take Russia out of the war, but I don't know whether they funded it or whether that was just rumours saying he was a German agent.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

FUCK OFF!

You're clogging my messages with your retarded spam.

[–]magnora7 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pyramid of debate, please man. Don't talk like this. If someone is frustrating you, ignore them.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Look what is happening to this interesting submission question.

This is obvious forum sliding of the top comment on this political (sensitive to interest groups) post. This slide is 10x the pyramid offense compared to some trivial exasperation statement.

It's not a coincidence that this is a political charged submission.

JC, this is flagrant forum sliding bullshit being used against your free speech query. Do you think it's a coincidence?

[–]HeyImSancho 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes Tom, it's interesting how this slides, and is yanked off topic; I'm quite in awe over it.

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yup, it is. There are shills here. I will NOT NAME names but this post hits home for some reason. It is obvious that they are forum sliding.

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No the shills are here and it is obvious. So, obvious in fact, it is maddening. Half the posts on this post are ad hominems, name calling and conversations that have nothing to do with the original post.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

/u/magnora7

We have someone not following the pyramid of debate. Named /u/JasonCarswell

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He's generally a chill, and level-headed dude.

However, he's driven to madness.

[–]sawboss 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

Quit being so fucking obtuse. Just come out with it: you hate Jews.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Obtuse? Proof? Low tier.

[–]sawboss 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Low tier.

Use the report link.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Burn!

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Christians can also be Zionists, Neocons, and internationalists. Jews also. It maddens me that everyone is trying to compare people. My post still stands, Jews overepresented the ranks in the Bolshevik government. The gulag systems were created by a Jew.

They were BAD JEWS, jurt like there are Bad Catholics. Now are they really Catholocs, Jews, etc., or do they just use these religion for their own warped agendas. I think rhe bolsheviks were simply a reactionary force against Czar control and the pogroms in past. The government swindled out of control and went on a crusade to completely invert Russian culture. Many bolshevik Jews in their writings are not shy in telling you this. They were out to wipe out an entire class and culture, no matter if their victims were guilty in sin.

[–]HeyImSancho 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

Not picking sides, but as to what Jesus was, is debated; hell some think he's black. Also, Albert Einstein looks to have 'gained' his 'brilliance' from stealing other's ideas in the patent office.

As far as Jews involvement in things, well they're involved in a lot of things; are they the core problem, or who is, and more correctly, 'who isn't' in this world?

Who's the real deceiver, and is there a victim; it takes two to tango.... meaning it takes willingness to participate by all.

[–]Jesus[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Exactly! But people would rather not accept that and instead forum slide a great post that even suggests that the red terror was a reactionary to oppression by the Czar. But mention a Bolshevik Jew in history and all the shills come to play. Now I understand why the noble peace prize winner's book, '200 Years Together' is still banned in the US. I still love all, even the shills.

[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yup

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Also, Albert Einstein looks to have 'gained' his 'brilliance' from stealing other's ideas in the patent office.

I take issue with this. Relativity isn't patentable. It just isn't one of those things you can patent. You can patent inventions and techniques, but neither theories of relativity were either of these.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Look into the controversies before you open you mouth. Stop shooting it off.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've looked into them before. I concluded that he probably didn't steal it (but he's dead now so it doesn't really matter) sometime circa 2013, and as far as I can tell no new evidence has come to light since.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

it doesn't really matter

Yet you keep fucking spouting off.

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Did I mention relativity?

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Did he do anything else noteworthy? (Apart from QM, etc.. Something that actually could've been stolen from a patent office.)

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

A few papers, a bomb, not sure, but not just relativity. My single only point with my post, was colloquially,'if people see smoke, then they expect fire'; why shouldn't they investigate?

Meaning, the list in the OP does show a strong percentages of Jews holding the majority of power often; when looking at their global population numbers, there's a compelling difference. Majority of power, held within a minority of people(by numbers). Common sense would at least say, 'look, and beg the question why?'.

The average Jew, proud of being what they are, do brag, who wouldn't? Does it mean anything, or not? I don't know, don't care, I see the average person needing to make change on their own level; in this regard, the second man in the 'tango dance'(mentioned in earlier post) is always the 'mark'; meaning that each of us can make critical changes, to foment the change. After all, there'll always be someone to blame; no matter the amount of silly 'debate logic' read, will change this fact.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Complete tangent; don't take this as continuing the discussion please. If anyone wants to continue the discussion on the topic, please reply to the above comment.


there'll always be someone to blame;

Three engineers are working through a checklist for the ocean bridge four architects have designed. This checklist was written by an insert job title here, who consulted seismologists, pedologists and local safety regulations in ensuring that it covers everything. The engineers determine that the bridge meets all the requirements they've been given to sufficient tolerance, and hand it off to the bridge builders. They put the bridge together as the specification demands over the course of 38 months. (It's a big bridge.)

Seven years later, after a large earthquake, the bridge collapses, killing 47 and injuring around 350. It's difficult to discern what the problem was, but it appears that by the time of the collapse the foundations were no longer supporting the bridge.

Who's to blame?

[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'm not an actuary, lawyer, judge, or jury ;-)

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If anyone wants to continue the discussion on the topic, please reply to the above comment.

A formally declared Forum slide inserted above? Hilarious.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But you still think there's somebody to blame? Each individual person did their job right, and the people who designed the system didn't design a flawed system. The world just turned out not to work the way they expected, and their bridge fell down.

[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

'but you still think there's somebody to blame?' Someone always does.

'Each individual person did their job right, and the people who designed the system didn't design a flawed system. The world just turned out not to work the way they expected, and their bridge fell down.' was there loss? If so then there's always someone to blame; ask a lawyer.

Wizz, the responses above, I can give all day long; while you, and others that are here for varying purposes of I guess 'reform', one thing you'll never be able to change is the organic nature of the world. Meaning, when you think you've got it all figured out, it still comes back to bite you in the butt in a way that's usually humbling. To put that into the spin on the bridge, I comprehended from the get go what your point was, but at the same time, you proved mine too.

[–]HopeThatHalps 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Also, Albert Einstein looks to have 'gained' his 'brilliance' from stealing other's ideas in the patent office.

Can you point me in the direction of a compelling argument to this effect? Just on the face of it, unless Einstein was also an assassin, it seems to me that the original inventors would have called him out on this. People who apply for patents dont do so in order to be robbed, just the opposite.

[–]HeyImSancho 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Well "Halps", my post was simply pointing out a common thing I've read; nothing more. It's called conversation, and no matter how hard, you, or the other thought po-lice say, or do, you'll never be able to stop free thought, and conversation. It's up to whoever receives the information to discern the information.

As far as suppressed inventions, and unfair dealings with the patent office; and you needing examples, what of Tesla's invention of the radio; that didn't work out so well for him, but it was made right, or whole again???? Not.

[–]HopeThatHalps 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

So you believe things on the flimsiest of evidence, or no evidence at all, if it serves to make a historically renowned Jewish physicist out to be fraud. Does it ever cross your mind that you might be the "bad guy"?

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No bad guy here "Halps". On that note, I think you should re-read my first post. I was simply stating that people investigate smoke when they see it; does it mean there's fire, or not?

You, nor the thought police will ever silence people's need for comprehension, and closure. All you do, is show yourself for being a bigot; only the 'approved thought' allowed, comrade, right "halps"?

[–]HopeThatHalps 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

There is no smoke. You cast me as attacking your right to express yourself, that's obviously not the case. I've criticized the substance of what you have said, and you offer no defense of your own words. You have no logical case to suggest Einstein was a fraud, your motivations are beyond suspect. It's just sad to me that you can be so hateful of a person, or people, for things that are beyond their control.

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Halps, The circle jerk continues, and you continually avoid any notion of what I stated; in fact, you never ask for clarification of anything I've written. The exact post of yours, I'm responding to, again, puts me in a corner of thought by you, in which it seems as though you attempt to paint the picture that I'm limiting myself to said corner? The corner is in your own mind, as I've got no 'corner'!

Let's look at this last post of yours: You say, 'There is no smoke'(the op itself is smoke?) How authoritarian, and definitive of a redirection.... I simply said, 'where people see smoke, they investigate'. Am I owning, disowning, passing judgment, or anything else with this statement? No, yet you attack, interesting.

Is it wrong to note a trend? The trend I see pertinent to this particular thread, is that Jews, are a small group in the world, and control a great deal of wealth. Can this not be noted? The OP, simply notes that there are a great deal of bolsheviks that were Jews, which traditionally always gets attacked for being mentioned, is this a bad trend to note? Why?

The next portion of your last post, states you've 'obviously' not attacked me, yet the very next sentence utterd by you is,'you offer no defense of your own words.' Again, how in stating the simple fact, that people should be able to investigate smoke when they see it, is wrong( and lacking 'defense')? To state this doesn't take a side, as I'm literally pointing out people never stop; especially when others, such as yourself, vehemently go into label with the official Politically Correct bull****, in apparent hopes that by some simple emotionally response of guilt, embarrassment, or other simple low iq response in order to halt the conversation. I guess now since that's not working across the board, it's become 'doxxing', but the fact remains, people don't like bullies; so you cannot win.

Regarding the next portion of your post, 'you have no logical case to suggest Einstein was a fraud, your motivations are beyond suspect.' Another great quasi hit, and run "halps". If you reread my posts, my entire premise was 'smoke', and people investigating. I didn't mention Einstein, someone else did in their post as a means to state,'look, there are good Jews'!!!! In fact, they started their list with Jesus. Jesus is in debate as to what he was; all the way around. The next person on that list is Einstein? Really? The guy who with a simple internet search can stir controversy? Go read, and search "Halps", it's all there, from the numerous other scientists who feel that their work was stolen, and why they thought so. People in general read this too, hence the smoke.

My question though my ignorant friend is what is your motivation? I was simply pointing out that someone's counter evidence, had holes. The world is all shades of grey, and nothing black, and white; there will never be a sanitized world; where by any group won't be subject to controversy. This is a multi way street.

The last portion of your drivel post? 'It's just sad to me that you can be so hateful of a person, or people, for things that are beyond their control.' Am I hateful? Do you know me? You obviously could give a rat's ass to read what I write, so I'm not shocked at your heart string, intuitive last little dig at sympathy pandering to who? Another reader perhaps not knowing how SJW, PC'd Communists think?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I haven't looked into it deeply but I believe an Italian scientist published the relativity theory 2 years before Einstein. Or most of it.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Your point. What does that have to do wirh anythihg? And Jesus was not the Zionists Jews of today not the Hillel Sect of Jews today, again, generalizing.

You completly missed my point. With this post. The Bolsheviks, mostly Jewish had a reason to revolt against the Czar. Many Bolsheviks killed other Jews in politics who didn't adhere to the revolutiom and wanted some sort of stability.

I do not conflate all Jews with the ideologies of the Bolsheviks.

Like Solzhenitsyn said:

All I am calling for is self-reflection... How could such a thing have been allowed? Where in all this is did we go wrong? And could it happen again?

It is in that spirit, specifically, that it would behoove the Jewish people to answer, both for the revolutionary cutthroats and the ranks willing to serve them. Not to answer before other peoples, but to oneself, to one’s conscience, and before God.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yo! That's a lot to take in.

Could go in a know your Bolsheviki history, as a Russian internationalist perspective sub.

My Russian history is pretty rusty, so it could just be me.

[–]sawboss 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

is just you