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[–]PikonParadox 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (16 children)

I don't get it. Can someone please explain?

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

THE MYSTERY OF ISIS’ TOYOTA ARMY SOLVED

Just last year it was reported that the US State Department had been sending in fleets of specifically Toyota-brand trucks into Syria to whom they claimed was the “Free Syrian Army.”

US foundation-funded Public Radio International (PRI) reported in a 2014 article titled, “This one Toyota pickup truck is at the top of the shopping list for the Free Syrian Army — and the Taliban,” that:

Recently, when the US State Department resumed sending non-lethal aid to Syrian rebels, the delivery list included 43 Toyota trucks.

[–]Alduin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The US bought Toyota trucks and other supplies for ISIS back when the media used to call them "Syrian rebels".

[–]PikonParadox 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Does that mean the U.S. Govt. "indirectly" aided the ISIS?

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In this:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/pgs-287-293-291-jw-v-dod-and-state-14-812-2/

declassified report, it states that for

"THE WEST, GULF COUNTRIES, AND TURKEY [WHICH] SUPPORT THE [SYRIAN] OPPOSITION… THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING A DECLARED OR UNDECLARED SALAFIST PRINCIPALITY IN EASTERN SYRIA (HASAKA AND DER ZOR), AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE SUPPORTING POWERS TO THE OPPOSITION WANT, IN ORDER TO ISOLATE THE SYRIAN REGIME…”.

The DIA report, formerly classified “SECRET//NOFORN” and dated August 12, 2012, was circulated widely among various government agencies, including CENTCOM, the CIA, FBI, DHS, NGA, State Dept., and many others.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Screen-Shot-2015-05-22-at-16.58.54.png

The document shows that as early as 2012, U.S. intelligence predicted the rise of the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL or ISIS), but instead of clearly delineating the group as an enemy, the report envisions the terror group as a U.S. strategic asset.


While a number of analysts and journalists have documented long ago the role of western intelligence agencies in the formation and training of the armed opposition in Syria, this is the highest level internal U.S. intelligence confirmation of the theory that western governments fundamentally see ISIS as their own tool for regime change in Syria.

The document matter-of-factly states just that scenario.

Forensic evidence, video evidence, as well as recent admissions of high-level officials involved (see former Ambassador to Syria Robert Ford’s admissions here and here),

https://twitter.com/fordrs58/status/569957824371019776

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2015/02/18/257024/once-a-top-booster-ex-us-envoy.html

...have since proven the State Department and CIA’s material support of ISIS terrorists on the Syrian battlefield going back to at least 2012 and 2013 and probably before, for a clear example of “forensic evidence”: see UK-based Conflict Armament Research’s report

http://conflictarm.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Dispatch_IS_Iraq_Syria_Weapons.pdf

...which traced the origins of Croatian anti-tank rockets recovered from ISIS fighters back to a Saudi/CIA joint program via identifiable serial numbers).

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/25/world/middleeast/arms-airlift-to-syrian-rebels-expands-with-cia-aid.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

The newly released DIA report makes the following summary points concerning “ISI” (in 2012 “Islamic State in Iraq,”) and the soon to emerge ISIS:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/pgs-287-293-291-jw-v-dod-and-state-14-812-2/

  • Al-Qaeda drives the opposition in Syria

  • The West identifies with the opposition

  • The establishment of a nascent Islamic State became a reality only with the rise of the Syrian insurgency (there is no mention of U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq as a catalyst for Islamic State’s rise, which is the contention of innumerable politicians and pundits; see section 4.D. below)

  • The establishment of a “Salafist Principality” in Eastern Syria is “exactly” what the external powers supporting the opposition want (identified as “the West, Gulf Countries, and Turkey”) in order to weaken the Assad government

  • “Safe havens” are suggested in areas conquered by Islamic insurgents along the lines of the Libyan model (which translates to so-called no-fly zones as a first act of ‘humanitarian war’; see 7.B.)

    • Iraq is identified with “Shia expansion” (8.C)L
    • A Sunni “Islamic State” could be devastating to “unifying Iraq” and could lead to “the renewing facilitation of terrorist elements from all over the Arab world entering into Iraqi Arena.” (see last non-redacted line in full PDF view.)

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/pgs-287-293-291-jw-v-dod-and-state-14-812-2/

Plus, there arenumerous other times where we directly aided Da'esh in opposition to the SAA and indirectly through our Sunni proxies.

[–]Zombi 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

I think they're implying that ISIS is either funded by or actually is the U.S. government due to our relationship with Israel and the fact that they drive toyota trucks.

OP is always posting this nearly unverifiable and loosely connected bullshit. The more confused you are by this post the more mentally stable you are lol.

[–]swordofdamocles42 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

so you don't find it odd that isis never attacked israel?

its pretty obvious, at this point after the facts, that isis were mercenaries. and theres only the MIC who could organize that.

[–]Zombi 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Do I find it odd? Sure, it is odd and if it ended at that I wouldn't have said anything. I also find it odd that ISIS is even a thing in the first place; I find their entire ideology odd. There are tons of odd things in this world, but that doesn't make them a conspiracy.

If you show me convincing evidence (not conjecture) that they are mercenaries for the U.S. then I'll change my tune, but all I've seen is stuff like what's in OP: very loose connections. Like how OP uses toyota trucks as "evidence". Yet there's no evidence of who supplied those trucks to them, we just know that they're made in Texas. It's one thing to assume and form the opinion that they U.S. supplied them, it's another to have verifiable evidence that they did.

[–]swordofdamocles42 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

its not the U.S. exactly - -its the cabal, and its global. the uk and mossad are surely involved too. plus god knows who else...

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Here's your evidence...

In this:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/pgs-287-293-291-jw-v-dod-and-state-14-812-2/

declassified report, it states that for

"THE WEST, GULF COUNTRIES, AND TURKEY [WHICH] SUPPORT THE [SYRIAN] OPPOSITION… THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING A DECLARED OR UNDECLARED SALAFIST PRINCIPALITY IN EASTERN SYRIA (HASAKA AND DER ZOR), AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE SUPPORTING POWERS TO THE OPPOSITION WANT, IN ORDER TO ISOLATE THE SYRIAN REGIME…”.

The DIA report, formerly classified “SECRET//NOFORN” and dated August 12, 2012, was circulated widely among various government agencies, including CENTCOM, the CIA, FBI, DHS, NGA, State Dept., and many others.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Screen-Shot-2015-05-22-at-16.58.54.png

The document shows that as early as 2012, U.S. intelligence predicted the rise of the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL or ISIS), but instead of clearly delineating the group as an enemy, the report envisions the terror group as a U.S. strategic asset.


While a number of analysts and journalists have documented long ago the role of western intelligence agencies in the formation and training of the armed opposition in Syria, this is the highest level internal U.S. intelligence confirmation of the theory that western governments fundamentally see ISIS as their own tool for regime change in Syria.

The document matter-of-factly states just that scenario.

Forensic evidence, video evidence, as well as recent admissions of high-level officials involved (see former Ambassador to Syria Robert Ford’s admissions here and here),

https://twitter.com/fordrs58/status/569957824371019776

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2015/02/18/257024/once-a-top-booster-ex-us-envoy.html

...have since proven the State Department and CIA’s material support of ISIS terrorists on the Syrian battlefield going back to at least 2012 and 2013 and probably before, for a clear example of “forensic evidence”: see UK-based Conflict Armament Research’s report

http://conflictarm.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Dispatch_IS_Iraq_Syria_Weapons.pdf

...which traced the origins of Croatian anti-tank rockets recovered from ISIS fighters back to a Saudi/CIA joint program via identifiable serial numbers).

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/25/world/middleeast/arms-airlift-to-syrian-rebels-expands-with-cia-aid.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

The newly released DIA report makes the following summary points concerning “ISI” (in 2012 “Islamic State in Iraq,”) and the soon to emerge ISIS:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/pgs-287-293-291-jw-v-dod-and-state-14-812-2/

  • Al-Qaeda drives the opposition in Syria

  • The West identifies with the opposition

  • The establishment of a nascent Islamic State became a reality only with the rise of the Syrian insurgency (there is no mention of U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq as a catalyst for Islamic State’s rise, which is the contention of innumerable politicians and pundits; see section 4.D. below)

  • The establishment of a “Salafist Principality” in Eastern Syria is “exactly” what the external powers supporting the opposition want (identified as “the West, Gulf Countries, and Turkey”) in order to weaken the Assad government

  • “Safe havens” are suggested in areas conquered by Islamic insurgents along the lines of the Libyan model (which translates to so-called no-fly zones as a first act of ‘humanitarian war’; see 7.B.)

    • Iraq is identified with “Shia expansion” (8.C)L
    • A Sunni “Islamic State” could be devastating to “unifying Iraq” and could lead to “the renewing facilitation of terrorist elements from all over the Arab world entering into Iraqi Arena.” (see last non-redacted line in full PDF view.)

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/pgs-287-293-291-jw-v-dod-and-state-14-812-2/

Plus, there arenumerous other times where we directly aided Da'esh in opposition to the SAA and indirectly through our Sunni proxies.

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ahh yes, the mentally stable comment. You understand that ad hominems and attacking someone's character are the lowest of lows when it comes to debating or even just conversing for that matter.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

In this:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/pgs-287-293-291-jw-v-dod-and-state-14-812-2/

declassified report, it states that for

"THE WEST, GULF COUNTRIES, AND TURKEY [WHICH] SUPPORT THE [SYRIAN] OPPOSITION… THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING A DECLARED OR UNDECLARED SALAFIST PRINCIPALITY IN EASTERN SYRIA (HASAKA AND DER ZOR), AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE SUPPORTING POWERS TO THE OPPOSITION WANT, IN ORDER TO ISOLATE THE SYRIAN REGIME…”.

The DIA report, formerly classified “SECRET//NOFORN” and dated August 12, 2012, was circulated widely among various government agencies, including CENTCOM, the CIA, FBI, DHS, NGA, State Dept., and many others.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Screen-Shot-2015-05-22-at-16.58.54.png

The document shows that as early as 2012, U.S. intelligence predicted the rise of the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL or ISIS), but instead of clearly delineating the group as an enemy, the report envisions the terror group as a U.S. strategic asset.


While a number of analysts and journalists have documented long ago the role of western intelligence agencies in the formation and training of the armed opposition in Syria, this is the highest level internal U.S. intelligence confirmation of the theory that western governments fundamentally see ISIS as their own tool for regime change in Syria.

The document matter-of-factly states just that scenario.

Forensic evidence, video evidence, as well as recent admissions of high-level officials involved (see former Ambassador to Syria Robert Ford’s admissions here and here),

https://twitter.com/fordrs58/status/569957824371019776

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2015/02/18/257024/once-a-top-booster-ex-us-envoy.html

...have since proven the State Department and CIA’s material support of ISIS terrorists on the Syrian battlefield going back to at least 2012 and 2013 and probably before, for a clear example of “forensic evidence”: see UK-based Conflict Armament Research’s report

http://conflictarm.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Dispatch_IS_Iraq_Syria_Weapons.pdf

...which traced the origins of Croatian anti-tank rockets recovered from ISIS fighters back to a Saudi/CIA joint program via identifiable serial numbers).

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/25/world/middleeast/arms-airlift-to-syrian-rebels-expands-with-cia-aid.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

The newly released DIA report makes the following summary points concerning “ISI” (in 2012 “Islamic State in Iraq,”) and the soon to emerge ISIS:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/pgs-287-293-291-jw-v-dod-and-state-14-812-2/

  • Al-Qaeda drives the opposition in Syria

  • The West identifies with the opposition

  • The establishment of a nascent Islamic State became a reality only with the rise of the Syrian insurgency (there is no mention of U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq as a catalyst for Islamic State’s rise, which is the contention of innumerable politicians and pundits; see section 4.D. below)

  • The establishment of a “Salafist Principality” in Eastern Syria is “exactly” what the external powers supporting the opposition want (identified as “the West, Gulf Countries, and Turkey”) in order to weaken the Assad government

  • “Safe havens” are suggested in areas conquered by Islamic insurgents along the lines of the Libyan model (which translates to so-called no-fly zones as a first act of ‘humanitarian war’; see 7.B.)

    • Iraq is identified with “Shia expansion” (8.C)L
    • A Sunni “Islamic State” could be devastating to “unifying Iraq” and could lead to “the renewing facilitation of terrorist elements from all over the Arab world entering into Iraqi Arena.” (see last non-redacted line in full PDF view.)

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/pgs-287-293-291-jw-v-dod-and-state-14-812-2/

Plus, there are numerous other times where we directly aided Da'esh in opposition to the SAA and indirectly through our Sunni proxies.

Look up clarity of signal to get an ideaof how the syrian opposition, and the so called white helmets mingle with Da'esh and Al Nusra Front. Hundreds have been caught via their own social media posts out of their own stupidity.

[–]Zombi 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Now this is what I'm talking about! Thank you for the detailed and sourced response. I will be checking this out when I get off work. I appreciate it :).

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Your welcome. We indeed, covertly arm ISIS when they further our geopolitical interests, just as Russia does with the Taliban in Afghanistan.

[–]Zombi 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I know we're the ones who set up Al-Qaeda and I don't deny we've done something similar with ISIS. I just don't agree that they're our mercenaries. I think we may provide them with, uh, assistance, but not actually control them.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We do through black projects and clandestine joint ops with Sunni Wahhabism in Qatar, UAE, Turkey and Saudi Arabia. Everyone wants a piece of the pie. They obviously have their own agendas whether, socioeconomic, geopolitical, etc., so we can not control everything they do at all times, but we do work directly with them via cloak and dagger, mostly though, we just provide them with tens of millions of dollars in rocket launchers and assault rifles via our gulf proxies.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They are our mercenaries if we can utilize them to further a geopolitical agenda. If it means arming and training them cloak and dagger style, we'd do that too.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Provided to your local false flag jihadi's by the US State Dept. Ethnic exclusions may apply. See you Israeli handler for details.