“There are 6,000,000 living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism.” - Rabbi Wise Alright, I guess I understand the argument here, although he said living, not dead. But oh wait, one more tiny detail. This statement was made in 1900. Oops.

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[–]cmdrrockawesome 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

This is completely disingenuous and taken out of context. Post the whole damn article when you do this nonsense. For those who care, the full article is here.

The article relates speeches given in 1900 in support of the re-establishment of a Jewish state by various Jewish leaders. The quote in question is as follows:

There are 6,000,000 living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism. They come not to beg, but to ask for that which is higher than all material things. They seek to have satisfied the unquenchable thirst after the ideal. They ask to become once again the messengers of right, justice, and humanity.

He's likely referencing the 5,000,000 or so Jews that were being persecuted in Russia and eastern Europe at the time. Numbers are used in hyperbole all the time to convey a message and argue a point. I don't see what the issue is.

Oh wait. It's that 6,000,000 Jews died in the Holocaust. That's what the connection is, right? Are you a Holocaust denier now too? In addition to everything else?

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are plenty more references depicting the six million figure well before Hitler came to power, here, watch this: https://invidio.us/watch?v=yBnMtkbWPCs

No, I do not deny the genocide, though I would not call it a holocaust, because it was not a holocaust. The definition of a holocaust does not define what the National Socialists, nor Germany as a whole did to the Jews nor how most Jews died. Yes, I'm skeptical of the 6,000,000 figure and through my research this estimate is much to high, thus we have historical review boards, who, in fact, have unofficially lowered the Auschwitz Concentration camp death counts by MORE THAN HALF. For thirty plus years, the number of deaths in Auschwitz was said by the holocaust industry to be around four million. They ran with this lie, before historians, many who are termed “Holocaust Deniers” as if they deny the genocide in its entirety, proved that the number was indeed impossible. So, they continued to call these same historians “holocaust deniers” whilst they lowered the number by more than half!! How nice of them, whilst they continue to pass laws to jail anyone who even questions the historical accuracy or their provable inaccuracies. All in all, most so called holocaust deniers, are not deniers at all, and in fact believe a genocide of Jewry took place. Auschwitz Concentration camp and many other concentration camps were for the most part considered work labor camps. Did millions die due to starvation, disease, and grueling labor for the war effort. Yes. But the idea that 6,000,000 died, most by gas chambers and other euthanasia methods is not rooted in fact, and zero physical evidence exists except from the words of the Soviets.

https://www.amazon.com/Holocaust-Industry-Reflections-Exploitation-Suffering/dp/1781685614

^ ^ ^ Finkelstein, a Jew has had the courage to say that the Nazi genocide has been distorted and robbed of its true moral lessons and instead has been put to use as ‘an indispensable ideological weapon.’

The book reveals the corruption that exploits victims as well as Germans. The holocaust reparations scam has turned into a cash cow for selected influential Jewish lobby groups, leaving little or nothing for the survivors. The shake-down of Swiss banks is an embarrassment and disgrace to the United States.

Tirelessly it is propagated by an industry that makes billions off of it.