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[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Now that you have accused me if being selfish, I formally asking you to trigger warn me with the following statement, "FORUM SLIDE TRIGGER WARNING".

Please trigger warn me each every time that you respond to any of my comments or posts, because I often feel traumatized when you try to change the topic, avoid the facts, or insert emotionally charged statements.

Please be considerate of my feelings, as I may feel that it is better/necessary to avoid reading your potentially traumatizing, or potentially offensive comments.

Please be kind and considerate of my feelings on this matter, as you do not know me, or my background, or what I have been through.

You cannot be expected to understand how traumatized I may sometimes feel based on your accusation. Your kindness in respecting this formalized trigger warning request is deeply appreciated.

 

However, If you decide to ignore my appeal to your kind and considerate nature, and instead invoke your Constitutional Free Speech Rights, then I WILL BE HERE TO DEFEND YOUR FREE SPEECH RIGHTS; IN SPITE OF YOUR ODIOUS HYPOCRICY.

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What's it going to be? Will you respect my formal request, and appeal to kindness???

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I have a suspicion that you're not being serious. But if this is really an issue for you, feel free not to read further.

Edit: this is all marked with the "spoiler" tag, which should serve to hide it from view by default. However, this appears to be broken on Saidit at the moment. I'm reporting the bug.

In the meantime, feel free not to scroll down.

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Let's use an example. If you had a friend who'd recently been raped, then you'd avoid making rape jokes around them for at least a few weeks. Because, despite disagreeing with you, I assume that you are a decent fellow human being who I am talking to and need to be nice to… (breathe.)

Anyway, you can't do that on the web. Your audience is so big, and if you were to try to do that you'd end up not talking about anything. However, the web has an advantage over conversations: if you don't want to be forced to experience something, and you know that it's coming up, you can skip past it.

Hence the trigger warning. Remember that free speech doesn't mean you can force people to listen. And it's nice to warn people that they might be adversely affected if they choose to listen to you, because you're discussing things that others might not want to hear. Like being enslaved in a cult. Or children dying. Or graphic depictions of murder.

It doesn't prevent you from saying what you were doing to say.

Now, to address your tangential concerns:

when you try to change the topic,

I really hope that I wasn't doing this. Can you quote me doing that so I know, and can avoid doing so in future?

avoid the facts,

I wasn't doing that in this case. There aren't really any facts to ignore – at least, not in the usual sense of the word.

or insert emotionally charged statements.

Now, I did do this. But I don't think it was unwarranted, considering that we are discussing a measure to prevent people from inadvertently hurting others and the primary driving factor towards this is empathy – an emotional phenomenon.

Please stop tone-policing.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Watch as this comment chain slides off of the page.

I didn't ask for a spoiler message. I asked for a forum sliding trigger message before each of your responses.

Are you now gnoring my formal request?

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You're not even on the debate pyramid. You're not even listening to what I'm saying, so I'm just going to give up.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Asking questions definitely qualifies for debate.

Trigger notifications aren't on the Pyramid of Debate. They can infact stifle or prevent healthy debate.

They are suppressive and should be abolished.

Are you going to answer my question? Yes, or no? If you do not respond one way or the other, then I'll assume you are defaulting to the hypocrite notion.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No, I am not ignoring your "formal" request (that isn't, in fact, formal by any stretch of the definition). However, I am no longer assuming good faith. Your refusal to have a decent conversation on the matter is showing.

Please address the points I have written, and not this tangent where you attack my character and motives, as if defeating me as a person means that what I am saying is wrong and stupid.

And please don't start tone-policing again.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Comedy

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Please actually address what I'm saying. Trolling isn't really a nice thing to do.