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[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Would you even say there's a difference? Maybe national vs global? What else?

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I would wager a guess there are many Zionists who want "Greater Israel" and all that, but don't agree with the direction of the current Israeli government. So those would be the Zionists who aren't Israeli Nationalists, but I imagine they're few and far between.

And then there's probably a few people who really like the Israeli government, but don't have any religious or ideological ties to it beyond just the Nationalism. That'd be the Israeli Nationalists who aren't Zionists. But again, very rare.

But I think 95% of the time, you can say Israeli Nationalists and Zionists have a lot of overlap, because they have the same general goals, and one bolsters the ideology of the other. But only about half of Jews are Zionists. And there are a lot of Christian Zionists too.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks. I wanted to say it's the same thing but I wasn't sure it actually was. I feel better about saying it's the same diff, generally.

Thinking about it, one could transcribe it to our countries. USA and Canada. When we think of them we don't automatically think of the First Nations folks who still suffer to this day, so I'm guessing Israelis likely think of a lot of other things before they consider the plight of Palestinians.

There's no parallel I can think of regarding the control over Banks, Hollywood, and infiltration. They seem to stand alone there.