Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Spouts His Insane Anti-Vaxxer Conspiracy Theory in Measles Hot Zone

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[–]jtriangle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Well the two week hard to control fever is only part of it. It also sterilizes a fair number of people.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Where is the evidence for this?

Have you heard about the serious risks with the MMR vaccine?

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What risks? The risks espoused by somebody who was selling non-MMR vaccines, which later turned out to be due to a fundamental and gaping experimental error?

Or is there evidence now?

[–]jtriangle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I've read the studies, the worst thing that I can see about it that's proven with any scientific backing is that it wears off a little when you get old. Easily fixed with a mid-life booster, but there's some debate as to when exactly that should happen.

If there are any serious risks with the vaccine itself, the empirical data shows that it's well below the margin of error.

Now, because we're on a conspiracy sub, it's probably a better conversation to think about why people are getting measles in general. Are the feds infecting people to coax people into getting a vaccine? I can see a 'good' argument on their side that it's worth maintaining herd immunity for national security reasons, and it wouldn't be the first time they'd done something like that.

Hell, it pales in comparison to spraying Serratia Marcescens on San Francisco or giving poor black people syphilis.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sworn testimony entered into the US Congress on behalf of a CDC whistleblower stating that the MEASLES MUMPS AND RUBELLA vaccine causes a statistically significant increase of autism, or autism-like symptoms in African American populations. Testimony asserts that this doctor, his boss, and co-workers at the CDC sorted through the documents, and destroyed the documented evidence..

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Repeating from above with a source:.

the system is a fraud, and double-blind study's with a placebo aren't conducted. The only feild of medicine that perpetrates this fraud. .

4 billion dollars in court ordered payouts is proof enough for that. The government estimates that only 1% if victims seek compensation..

The vaccine industry was going out of business, but then the govt stepped in an decided to indemnify the vaccine manufacturers.

4 billion dollars is hard evidence proving that vaccines aren't safe.

[–]jtriangle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How exactly do you do a blind study without literally giving people measles? It sounds like an impossible ethical situation.

That, and the proof of the pudding is in the eating. We had about 20 years of nearly no measles cases, and didn't get them again until people stopped vaccinating.

Also, without knowing what exactly went wrong, 4 billion dollars is a meaningless number. Most malpractice suits are borderline frivolous too, so that further biases your number.

Like anything, it's about how you filter the data. If you want the absolute worst number possible, you can get that with a good data set. If you want an absolutely accurate number of people actually harmed by the vaccine and only the vaccine, you can also get that with a good data set.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's a double blind study for vaccines vs a placebo. In vaccine studies the placebo is replaced with last year's vaccine, or another vaccine; never against a placebo.

It's always a study comparing the effects of two vaccines. There's is no placebo control.

Even cancer patients get placebos in experimental studies.