Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Spouts His Insane Anti-Vaxxer Conspiracy Theory in Measles Hot Zone

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

You didn't watch the lecture, did you? You really should.

If you had, then you wouldn't be making these arguments.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Watched it. Most of their "evidence" (at 32:21) is heavily influenced by selection bias; those who had stronger immune systems were more likely to survive measles, and other diseases too.

The measles vaccine would, if immune system strength is genetic, have a long-term negative effect on the population. But so does cancer treatment, and all other sorts of people-death-prevention. Eugenics would be letting the weak die to preserve the strength of the gene pool, which I don't think is ethical. Bill Gates is the opposite of a eugenicist.

The measles drop-off before vaccines were introduced is interesting; I will keep that in mind. However, the 32:21 evidence suggests that vaccines are actually useful at preventing deaths.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Selection bias is necessary when the system is a fraud, and double-blind study's with a placebo aren't conducted. The only feild of medicine that perpetrates this fraud. .

4 billion dollars in court ordered payouts is proof enough for that. The government estimates that only 1% if victims seek compensation..

The vaccine industry was going out of business, but then the govt stepped in an decided to indemnify the vaccine manufacturers.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

and double-blind study's [sic] with a placebo aren't conducted.

doi:10.1016/S0140-6736(86)91044-5

It's behind a paywall, but I'm sure that there's an open access version accessible from some other DOI provider. There's a list here, in the General section.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Let's see it.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I've given you all the information you need to get a copy.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You don't want to actually show a link to the evidence? Sounds like you quit.

I accept your defeat.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know where to find a legal copy (depending on which country you live in). If you want to gain one illegally (depending on which country you live in), like on Sci-Hub, that's on you; you have enough information to do so.

You have yet to prove me wrong.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sworn testimony entered into the US Congress on behalf of a CDC whistleblower stating that the MEASLES MUMPS AND RUBELLA vaccine causes a statistically significant increase of autism, or autism-like symptoms in African American populations. Testimony asserts that this doctor, his boss, and co-workers at the CDC sorted through the documents, and destroyed the documented evidence..