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[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

I don't trust Pfizer for a second, but if you think having kids is so important that you're worried about a depopulation agenda...do you think Jesus and Paul had a depopulation agenda, seeing that they discouraged marriage, sex, and reproduction?

A lot of Christians seem to think not marrying and having as many kids as possible as quickly as possible is a sin. As if a faith that regards our current existence as worthless would be preoccupied entirely with earthly matters. This life is merely a drop in the ocean, but the most important thing is getting married and having 2.5 kids as soon as possible. Even though their own book says otherwise. Where does this come from?

[–]Bigs 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Out of curiosity, where in the bible does it discourage marriage and children?

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Matthew 19 and 1 Corinthians 7. I'm not surprised you've never seen it before. You'll never hear it from a pulpit, and they don't want you to know.

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Good question!

A chapter Vulptex answered you with: Matthew 19, shows that God is against divorce. God joins a man and his wife together, so man should not try to break them apart. Jesus said the only reason God consents to a man divorcing his wife is if she is an adulteress. But even then, God does not command the man to divorce her.

If a man is not married, he will spare himself many troubles if he remains unmarried. But it is not a sin to marry. And if he is unhappy being alone and feels tempted to have sex outside of marriage, then he should get married.

"To avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband." 1 Corinthians 7:2

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

In Matthew 19, you conveniently skipped over the part where the man says if divorce isn't an option, then it's better to not marry. Which Jesus then affirms.

I do not say that it is wrong to marry. But it is not recommended. Yet we treat marrying and raising a family as the be-all end-all.

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

you conveniently skipped over the part where the man says if divorce isn't an option, then it's better to not marry.

I said, "If a man is not married, he will spare himself many troubles if he remains unmarried."

I do not say that it is wrong to marry.

But you said, "God is against marriage and sex." If he were against marriage, then it would be wrong to marry. Anything God is against is a sin, because it would be outside of his will. But God is not against marriage and sex between a husband and his wife.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It goes further than that. The married person is also preoccupied with the affairs of the world and how to please their spouse. It isn't wrong to marry, but it isn't the best idea either. Not something we should be encouraging in most cases, let alone demanding. We seem to think being unmarried is actually a bad thing.

I think the root of the problem is the current preoccupation with gender. Without a traditional marriage, gender is no longer even a noteworthy aspect of our being, and gender roles are made redundant. Evangelicals for whatever reason have been really attached to 1950s gender roles ever since the gender issues flared up, and I think mass marriages are their way of keeping them alive in the church.

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is not the 1950s. This is the last generation, where people are so confused, they do not even know what they are.

Our faith should not be in a man-made church, but in the Lord Jesus Christ.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Our faith should not be in a man-made church, but in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Exactly.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think another aspect is just the modern obsession with sexual relations in general. Before, marriage was always a decision like any other. But in western pop culture, everyone is destined to fall in love with their "soul mate", like in a Disney princess romance movie. It's not hard to translate that into "God made you a soul mate who he wants you to find and marry". I suppose then refusing to marry could be seen as both rejecting God's will and depriving your intended spouse of their partner. But the fact is, there is no such thing, and our culture is way too obsessed with sexual relations (seriously, something like 98% of music is about sex). I kind of believe in soul mates, but definitely not that they equal spouses.