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[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

That is the most absurd thing anyone has said here, and we have had flat earthers pushing their shit. Everyone has experienced catching and spreading a cold.

Anyone can prove that diseases are communicable.

It has been proven conclusively.

[–]Alphix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Anyone can prove that diseases are communicable.

Of course, that's been proven. It's the VIRUSES that have ZERO PROOF THEY HAVE EVER EXISTED.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

When you have a disease but no bacteria then you know there is something else there. Viruses are the best explanation.

[–]Alphix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

OK so now we are in the realm of hypothesis.

Please name other possible causes, no matter their supposed, in your opinion, likelihood. Then we can discuss.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

It's on you to provide a better explanation given that it is you claiming this one is wrong.

[–]Alphix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

So you know of no other possible explanation, and given this, you choose to believe what everybdoy else believes. Deduction by ignorance.

It could be: cosmic rays, the fluctuation of the magnetic field, poisoning, some social-psychic phenomena, fungi & molds, some other electromagnetic phenomenon or maybe something else, this is just off the top of my head.

My point is, if viruses existed, they would satisfy Koch's postulates. NOTHING as an alternative to bacteria as a causative agent does.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

That's a retarded thing to say. I have a great explantion that makes sense and is supported by a lot of evidence. That there is no other explanation is why I don't doubt it.

At this point it is clear that you are a troll. Go fuck yourself.

[–]DeadWalks 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is why people hate celebrity scientists. They have the popular opinion / best guess therefore everyone else is wrong and then they get angry telling people to go fuck themselves when asked if there could be alternative theories. The human body is very responsive to environmental factors, be it allergens, chemical, biological or otherwise. We surround ourselves with pollutants in everyday products such as aerosols, cleaning chemicals, plastic fibres, food additives, unnecessary medications to fight headaches caused by poor diet, lack of exercise and fresh air. Any one of which could contribute to symptomatic response that resembles bacterial or viral infection and still actually be environmental. It is naive to believe we are all knowing creatures with all the answers. Newsflash, we aren't, and we don't. Data comparison is not legitimate research, that's keyboard warrior speak for "someone said something about something and I think it's related".

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If you are going to claim that all the evidence based ideas are wrong then you need to be able to support that. It is simply stupid to say "all that evidence isn't good enough for me therfore everyone has to give equal consideration to this bullshit alternate theory I pulled out of my ass and have no evidence for".

Environmental factors can't explain an illness that spreads from person to person. Alergens dont show up for one week getting one family member sick then disapear for that family member while showing up exclusively for another for a week.

Your theory is absurd that is why I don't buy it. And it is pathetic that you can't understand that and instead make up these stupid accusations. I tell people to go fuck themselves because they make bad faith arguments, probably because they have an agenda outside of what the discussion is.

So fuck you and all you alternate accounts. Upvote yourself all you want, your bullshit is transparent.

[–]DeadWalks 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't actually state a theory of my own, other than to highlight that there are more factors to consider than a vague reference to statistical data when it comes to research, I chimed in just because I think your attitude stinks.

[–]Alphix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You're not looking into it, doing zero research, yet so sure you have "the answer". You're the troll here, Canbot.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You're not doing your research on virology. Go educate yourself.

[–]Alphix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, I have. You don't even know what Koch's postulates are and you're telling ME to get educated? Please stop trolling.

[–]Alphix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Since you know that viruses are a real thing, then you should know why, in the thousands of times it was attempted, your so-called "viruses" were never found to satisfy Koch's postulates? Don't they constitute the actual definition of "virus"?