QAnon Leader Accidentally Outs Self As Statutory Rapist in Lawsuit Against Local Paper

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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (37 children)

This is my question. What do we do with a 24 year old and a 15 year old consensual relationship?

What about when the woman is 24?

Should he go to jail for the rest of his life because he fucked a 15 year old?

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (36 children)

This is my question. What do we do with a 24 year old and a 15 year old consensual relationship?

A 15 year old can't consent.

What about when the woman is 24?

A 15 year old boy can't consent either.

Should he go to jail for the rest of his life because he fucked a 15 year old?

In Pennsylvania?

No, he should go to jail for something in the 5-10 year range.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

I think prison is too much for a consensual relationship.

I understand your point, but he’s going to be raped in jail. Like real rape, not “I’m in love” rape.

If there was a jail for non violent criminals, I’d be on board with 5 to 10.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

That's what you'll get in Pennsylvania, if the victim is 13-15 and the perpetrator is 4-10 years older than them.

The law is generally right about consent and minors, i think. They need to be kids, whether or not they think they want to be adults. It's up to adults not to take that from them.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Yes. I think that’s the reason it’s illegal. And I’m not against it being illegal, I’m not sure hard time is justified in these situations.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

I'm guessing you don't have kids?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Why would you guess that?

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

You don't seem to feel as much need to protect them from grooming as someone who has them.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Well i have them. Lots of them.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Do you parent any of the girls?

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

An adult can groom a child of any age to think they consent.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Look man, I have had to be around young girls. And they basically throw them selves at you, in high school.

There is not much grooming involved. One would try to come up and sit next to me, and okay with my glasses, and like clearly horney shit.

Kids are fucking in high school. Yes, there may be grooming. But it also may be a reall pitiful man, and a really horny teenage girl.

There may be no grooming involved.

I understand your position, the age of consent is the age of consent. I understand that things are different for men and women, girls and boys. But I don’t see these consensual relationships as anywhere near as bad as other people do.

These statutory relationships. Especially because they can be predatory.

I still think prepubescent ducking is wrong. But whatever I made my point.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Look man, I have had to be around young girls. And they basically throw them selves at you, in high school.

So don't groom them.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep, I know.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Why does everyone think female rapists and groomers are no big deal? It's because their natural value forces society to be merciful with them. Men no one fucking cares about, you do well or get tortured. We simply never see women as bad or evil even if they're vile. It's been found that men on average get SIX TIMES the time for the same crime. And there are even some LAWS that get women out of sticky situations.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Womens value is in sex. So when you fuck a 15 year old girl, it’s considered taking something away from her permeantly. She can not get her chasity back, which is all women are valuable for. If they don’t produce children, they are failures.

It’s the exact opposite for men, if a man reproduces, he is considered to have done his job, and it is expected he will do more. And value is placed on him working.

It the differences in the sex’s man. And I think a man getting fucked early in life is not great. Thoes are the losers getting used up.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

And men don't lose their virginity? And it would stop a woman from having children? And men don't suffer the same lifelong trauma?

How can you say women are only valuable for having children? I doubt you truly believe that, or you would advocate just killing infertile ones! But I would not be surprised if you think men are only valuable for work. Both of these views are absolutely disgusting.

Do you care about real people, or do you care about dead evil processes of nature and evolution?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I’m explaining why no one cares.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well fuck it all

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

A 15 year old can't consent.

Don't be an idiot of course they can. The law recognizes this when the other person is under 18. A 15 year old having sex with a 17 year old isn't rape unless its actually coerced...because they CAN consent. There is just a magical point at which the other person becomes a certain age and they lose this ability... allegedly.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Don't be an idiot of course they can.

Not legally.

The law recognizes this when the other person is under 18. A 15 year old having sex with a 17 year old isn't rape unless its actually coerced...because they CAN consent.

Depends where you are. But the reason it's statuary rape, is not because they didn't want to consent, it's because the law doesn't recognise that consent.

Some places have Romeo and Juliette laws that make it a lesser crime if they're a similar age.

Some don't.

There is just a magical point at which the other person becomes a certain age and they lose this ability... allegedly.

Sexual development involves mucking about with other kids your own age. It's a journey of discovery. Cutting the corners by being exploited by someone who already knows how it goes when you should be playing does permanent damage to your development because you can't go back and do it right.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But the reason it's statuary rape, is not because they didn't want to consent, it's because the law doesn't recognise that consent.

Now we are getting somewhere, but that is not what you said.

A 15 year old can't consent.

^ Thats what you said

Sexual development involves mucking about with other kids your own age. It's a journey of discovery. Cutting the corners by being exploited by someone who already knows how it goes when you should be playing does permanent damage to your development because you can't go back and do it right.

Yes, but this isn't actually an issue of consent. One could make a similar case for middle age adults legally dating 18 year olds.

Furthermore, it's hilarious that you insist that a 15 year old cannot consent to having sex, but can consent to having gender reassignment surgery.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

^ Thats what you said

That's right. Meaning legally.

Furthermore, it's hilarious that you insist that a 15 year old cannot consent to having sex, but can consent to having gender reassignment surgery.

What the fuck are you taking about?

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Furthermore, it's hilarious that you insist that a 15 year old cannot consent to having sex, but can consent to having gender reassignment surgery.

No, really: What the fuck are you talking about?