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[–]Bigs 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Yeah, it's 'censored' but not really.

I finally got around to watching it, and there are indeed some shitty bits to make the rest stink. The very fact it starts off with Bigfoot and stuff instantly brands you a 'conspiracy theorist' for sharing it, then the usual long-debunked stuff like Gates wanting to depopulate with vaccines. It would be very easy indeed to be totally turned off and reject the entire vid.

On the bright side the stuff about blood clots is so compelling that I'm actually OK with it being spread around. People need to see that.

[–]LarrySwinger2 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Well, Gates did did mention vaccines as one of the things with which we could reduce the projected population. If he wasn't talking about outright killing people, he must've meant sterilizing them, which is equally outrageous. I think I'll give it a watch as well.

[–]Bigs 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Well an update - the unusual blood clots is compelling stuff, but true to form they carefully mixed in some old footage of a normal blood clot being removed - DEBUNKED!

See how that works?

They showed how the jabs have ruined fertility across the world, but carefully mixed in the obviously false data from Australia (hadn't been updated, not the same as 'no births') - fertility issues DEBUNKED!

See how that works?

They carefully added footage of people fainting and dying long before the vaccines existed. People dropping dead - DEBUNKED!

See how that works?

Anyone who has looked into it or saw the original TED talk knows Gates was pushing the idea that healthy societies have fewer children, so vaccines could reduce the over-population problem - 'Gates wants to kill people with vaccines - DEBUNKED!

See how that works?

The military deleted and fucked with their own medical data to hide the side effects of the vaccines. They carefully included bits from the people who miscounted doctor visit numbers with patient numbers - "Lots of sick soldiers - DEBUNKED!

See how that works?

The entire video is a psych-op to DEBUNKED! the reality, to discredit those like Dr Cole and Steve Kirsch who let themselves get roped into it. The fact it starts off with faked moon-landing and Bigfoot stuff will instantly brand you as a fucking loony-toon when you send it to people, and even more so when they can casually point out the now-numerous counter-vids DEBUNKING!! the bullshit.

It was created to be debunked, to make you look stupid for believing in it and sharing it.

Do you see how that works yet?

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

You have "debunked" without pointing to specific timecodes with refuting evidence or links.

[–]Bigs 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

It was created to be debunked with articles like this:

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-critical-thinking/anti-vaccine-documentary-died-suddenly-wants-you-feel-not-think

Don't get me wrong, I agree the clots ARE unusual and there's a lot of truth in the video. That's the point, to discredit those things with the other bullshit.

If you want to find all the problems just type 'died suddenly debunked' into your nearest Google, to see how much damage this video has created:

https://www.google.com/search?q=died+suddenly+debunked&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

This is deliberate.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Your theory about this movie makes a ton of sense. The movie discredits all covid vax skeptics with its absurdities and lack of sound arguments. It's like the mini nukes and no-planes 9/11 theories that came out years later.

Both sides are not talking about the all cause mortality stats, how the vax didn't really work, how Pfizer and the government lied and did a rush job for EUA, myocarditis, etc. etc. etc. We're all talking about this 'documentary'.

But somehow they had the $ to license a Pink Floyd song.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

IMO, I still believe this documentary may be a terrific way to shock-penetrate the thick skulls of sheeple and/or solidify anyone on the fence. This documentary is 100% over the target, even if there are small editorially creative collateral problems.

IMO, Stew Peters is a sensationalist limited hangout. He's mostly correct about most things, but sprinkled with errors enough that "the other side" can easily debunk his flaws.

More examples of problems with this documentary...

"Died Suddenly" Documentary Being Called Out [For A Couple Of] Inexcusable [Editorial] Mistake[s] - Viva Frei (11:36) ~ Viva Frei
/s/Documentaries/comments/a2js/died_suddenly_documentary_being_called_out_for_a/

cc /u/Bigs

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

this documentary may be a terrific way to shock-penetrate the thick skulls of sheeple and/or solidify anyone on the fence

Stew Peters is a sensationalist limited hangout

Pick one?

Taking heart surgery footage off of YouTube and passing it off as something vaccine related is not an 'editorial mistake'.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Pick one?

You know that's not how it works. Whether it's corporate media, Alex Jones, Viva Frei, Trump, or whoever - take it with a grain of source. We need to drill down to find whether it's true or not - or something between. Most folks don't have time for that. So as is, it's a very flawed but powerful weapon in the info war.

The video could certainly use a crowd-sourced fan-edit to correct some issues. Shame there aren't more creatives and researchers to draw from and willing on SaidIt. Then again, shame the quality of users here wasn't better, but muh free speech amirite? At least it's not 4-chan I guess.

Taking heart surgery footage off of YouTube and passing it off as something vaccine related is not an 'editorial mistake'.

Overall, I'd totally agree. The producers need to be, and be held, responsible.

As Devil's advocate, there could be a zillion reasons how bullshit was included. From inexperienced interns trying to assemble the most graphic imagery, poor source vetting, financial motives, intentional subterfuge from agents or infiltrators, to shooting themselves in the foot trying to communicate a point via terrible editorial choices.

To the oblivious sheeple it's powerful content.

To skeptics it's inaccurately sloppy if generally on point.

But the worst is how perfectly plays into the enemy's story.

And that's why, for the most part, I avoid Stew Peters - like Alex Jones, Noam Chomsky, Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, etc etc etc.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Using Google automatically debunks your argument.

Citing McGill, the home of MK Ultra, is not much better.

[–]Bigs 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Oh you muppet.

I'm trying to explain how this will go down with normies.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Sure, you didn't say so, and most normies don't do research.

[–]Bigs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I did say so, I literally said "Don't get me wrong, I agree the clots ARE unusual and there's a lot of truth in the video. That's the point, to discredit those things with the other bullshit."

Normies don't research, no, they "google".

(I had to switch my search provider from Brave to Google to show the fall-out from the vid. That so much ready-made debunking came in less than a day after release shows, I believe, that this was an op, as did the mass-posting of comments, all using caps to mention the DIED SUDDENLY "movie". And again, why the word "movie"? Do you call anything else like this a 'movie'? You might say documentary, or video, but would normal people normally call such a thing a "movie". But all over Youtube, rumble and twitter it was all "You really need to see the DIED SUDDENLY movie" shit.