CDC Data & Scientific Study suggest 1.2 million Americans may already have died due to COVID Vaccination

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[–]Canbot 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Excess mortality world wide is at about 20% higher than normal. From just bellow 60 million to 70 million. So about 10 million per year more people dying than normal.

Excess mortality in the US, where vaccination rates are much higher than the world average, is at 40%.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That's far more than can ever be attributed to changes in diet, exercise and mental health from lockdowns, or even reduced capacity for provision of treatments in hospitals due to being occupied by COVID patients. Even if all these figures, including the estimates in the article were off by a factor of ten it would still be a significant enough risk to cast the safety of the vaccine into doubt compared to simplify catching the virus and recovering naturally.

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We will never know exactly how much of that excess mortality is the mRNA shot because it is going to be suppressed. My personal guess is that all of it is. But to know you would need to compare vaxed and unvaxed all cause mortality. Simple to do in an uncorrupt system. Impossible to do in ours.

[–]Davethe_blank_ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's far more than can ever be attributed to changes in diet, exercise and mental health from lockdowns, or even reduced capacity for provision of treatments in hospitals due to being occupied by COVID patients.

well of course not, the cause is obviously climate change.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

😂

[–]BISH 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

CDC is a BISH.

[–]Anman 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Impossible, it's safe and effective.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (34 children)

The headline is a lie and anyone who believes it without digging into their evidence is a conspiritard moron.

This is, yet again, a story about vaers data. Not a CDC scientific study. Vaers is an open database that anyone can submit entries to. You can I can make a vaers reports right now, if we want. Some hostile nation can automate a script, entering 1.2 million deaths, if they wished.

Regarding the 1.2 million number. About three million Americans die every years. Cancer and heart disease are the top causes. Since the vaccine came around in march 2021, we can guess that about five million Americans died. It's only expected that (really far more than) 1.2 million of that five million, had been vaccinated. So there is nothing abnormal or anomalous of 1.2 million deaths post-jab. Again, most will be due to cancer and heart disease and traffic accidents.

So, once more, the conspiracy blog invented a panic article and you morons upvote because it confirms your biases

[–]SeethingPeasant 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The vaccine came out in December 2020. And the study was done by Harvard University and John's Hopkins. You didn't even read it did you. The programming just kicked in, you started seething and foaming at the mouth and immediately went into cope mode. Your brain said "must regurgitate MSM talking points!! Must called it a conspiracy theory (even tho all of the covid conspiracy theories have come true) and call it mis/dis info!!!" and then the gnashing of keyboard keys began. If you having truth problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems and fake news ain't 1.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And the study was done by Harvard University and John's Hopkins. You didn't even read it did you

That's an appeal to authority. Yes I read it. It's based on vaers. Let's have a look at these authoritative figures who you're saying I should believe because of their authority.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4206070

A lawyer

A gastric surgeon

A journalist

A cancer doctor

These are not the research students I would expect to see on an epidemiological paper, what about you?

Do you want to have a closer look at the contents of this paper?

Where does it say 1.2 million deaths?

You can download it in full from the ssrn site.

It says the risk of death is extremely rare.

This IS fake news and the fact you would reply to me with this seething screed is so funny.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

We can assume that most predicted statistics are inflated, but there is still some likelihood that there is an increase in excess deaths above what is considered normal that is not attributed to COVID, and that data will not be both inaccurate, and also dismissed as being invalid.due.to the available format of the vaers submission system. As Canbot has explained earlier, there is an increased excess above average which would be considered abnormal. Unless you have the same meticulous tracking of deaths as you do for COVID testing, we simply don't have the exact data and are forced to estimate. This is why the headline used the words suggests, and that they may have died due to the vaccine. Bias works both ways, brother.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If I suggest that 1.2 million people may suck my dick, it's not real reporting, it's sensationalism for clicks.

This is not how real science happens. As you admit yourself

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Suggestive inference does not equate to a definitive statement of fact, you said that the headline is a lie, I disagree. I'm not sure they even intend this to be scientific, it is more of an op-ed based on scraped data from external sources. Does data suggest that your penis is a mega-whore with 1.2million cuntface mouth diseases?

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's a straight up lie that CDC data suggests 1.2 million Americans may have died due to covid vaccination. It does not suggest any such thing

[–]Bigs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

Eeeeew, one of those who whines that the system for detecting vaccine injuries and deaths is being used for detecting vaccines injuries and deaths, because that's exactly what a system designed for detecting vaccine injuries and deaths is for.

Hey, "Site-rly-sux', perhaps you've heard of the Vsafe data instead? Would you like that data? Well you can't have it, cos they refuse to give it to you... oh wait, a lawyer managed to sue them for it. Guess what it said? It said nearly 8% (7.7) of people needed medical treatment after the 'safe and effective'. How do you reconcile THAT with your BULLSHIT?

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

It said nearly 8% (7.7) of people needed medical treatment after the 'safe and effective'. How do you reconcile THAT with your BULLSHIT

Okay prove or provide evidence for any of these statements.

I don't know why you thought I'd believe this without links to evidence. Just on your word alone. There might be something wrong with you, although I'd accept laziness as the answer

[–]Bigs 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (24 children)

You're way behind... let me look at last week's whatsapp stuff, cos I sent it to lots of peeps...

See, peeps complain about VAERS, and a study proved it massively UNDER-reports real events (because it's passive, just waiting for people to know it exists, make reports etc)... so they stopped cooperating with the people doing that study... Because they're cunts. But anyway, for covid they did come up with their own 'active' system - but it showed the injections were horrifically dangerous, so they stopped the system and didn't mention it anymore, after gathering data on a massive 10 million people. You know, cunts.

So some people asked, so what happened? Where's the data? They refused to hand it over, ignored and refused FOI requests. It took over a year and 2 fucking lawsuits before the cunts revealed the data:

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/why-did-the-cdc-hide-the-v-safe-data

It's horrific.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Oh my god this is so retarded.

First of all. You cannot complain that the CDC aren't giving data, then link me to a substack which points to a fox news interview which points to another site which offers an unprocessed multi-gigabyte download.

What is this data, which you're calling horrific?

Let's check out the so-called "dashboard" (which is really a PowerPoint slideshow of a static analysis)

https://www.icandecide.org/v-safe-data/

It shows that the vast majority of what you call "horrific" is people having soreness around the injection site, and a short period of flu-like symptoms. In other words, exactly what the Texas guardsman told me to expect when he injected me at COTA. Exactly what the science would predict people experiencing.

You're such a moron. "It's horrific", you say, histrionically. Did you even check? Did you even look at their data which shows soreness to the injection site is the major reported effect?

Get out of here with your bullshit. No, I'll bet any amount, that you didn't check. Fuck outa here. This is what's wrong with conspiritards.

[–]Bigs 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

You cannot complain that the CDC aren't giving data After 450+ days and 2 lawsuits ffs!

Try looking closer. You really think they stalled that hard to hide sore arms? Sore arms prevent you going to work and require you to seek medical care?

You're not exactly arguing in good faith here, proving that no amount of data will ever convince you, until the 2nd or third stabbing pain in the chest huh?

Give it up - we have Israel's own experts on tape telling their government the shots are causing serious, long-time harm, nearly 8% in Vsafe saying they needed to see a doctor or go to hospital (much higher percentages with shit like 'sore arm'), the VAERS system has been screaming red alert from the start, with more harms reported than all over vaccines combined, but you're STILL so fucking blind, huh?

Are the pains getting worse yet?

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Try looking closer.

At the substack you linked me to? Look closer at what, you moron?

[–]Bigs 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Well for a start, look closer at yourself and your own behavior?

While I'm here, this jus' popped up: https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/the-israeli-ministry-of-health-confirms

[–]Site_rly_sux 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So you tried to avoid answering.

Let's see if your brain can even compute the question, or if you're too far gone.

You told me to look into some data. I sent you a link to it. You told me that "it's horrific". I showed you with a direct link to the data you cited, that it's soreness to the injection site and flu-like symptoms.

You then had a mental breakdown, accused me of arguing in bad faith, and tried to change the topic.

Well I'm not changing the topic. You said it was really important. You said it was "horrific".

Answer for yourself. Because I showed you that you are totally wrong about this. So either face up to it, or let's watch your brain break trying to switch topics again

[–]Bigs 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Nope, we're done, "moron".

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Come back here. And account for this shameful shit u/bigs

Explain why you called minor soreness at the injection site "horrific"

Explain why you thought this was an important and relevant piece of information

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Bigs clearly proposed that hiding the data was horrific, not redness at injection site. You're heavily invested in trying to prove a medical treatment to be harmless, would you do the same for other medications? Perhaps you'd like to endorse Zoloft?

[–]Site_rly_sux 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

No, you're wrong, read it again, bigs clearly said that this data

showed the injections were horrifically dangerous

When in fact all the data showed was soreness to the injection site and a short period of flu-like symptoms

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I find the data concerning younger people potentially dangerous. Sweeping, diarrhea, vomiting and change of behaviour requiring medical attention would be deemed serious. But then if you only have data that demonstrates non fatal side effects, you will always have non fatal findings.

[–]Site_rly_sux 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Ok link to it. Because so far the only person who has linked to data here is me. So tell me what you're looking at and we can examine it together

Oh- and - do you now admit you were wrong when you said

Bigs clearly proposed that hiding the data was horrific, not redness at injection site

Because the quote I gave you above seems to prove otherwise

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Horrifically - that which is shocking.

Dangerous - that which could cause harm or injury.

I initially thought this was in response to the final comment by Bigs, but the comment you refer to would still stand up to scrutiny based on the frequency at which harm appears to have occurred. If I were to perform a risk assessment based on the data provided, I'd say that the likelihood were high for a minor injury.

[–]Bigs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"Death is not a reportable category in v-safe. This is because dead people can’t use their phones anymore. That is why there are no deaths."