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[–]Canbot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Save this news article and when the truth comes out use it to show people how much the BBC lies to them.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Ok I will - but when people ask, "how is this a lie?", what shall I answer? Because there's not a lie here

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It came from the Wuhan lab and they are clearly concealing that fact.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They're not concealing anything. A study plotted early COVID reports on a map. BBC reported truthfully and candidly about the study, using the map as illustration. It would be a lie if BBC reported anything other than what they did

[–]Insider 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

COVID-19 was planted there by the US. There was foreknowledge of this event way before the Chinese knew. US intelligence warned allies a month before the first case. The government sent astroturfs on social media two months before the first case to prepare for speech control. They ran two COVID simulations just before the pandemic. The CDC and other US factions were illegally manipulating patents in the years prior and used the sequence in Moderna's patent to make the virus infectious to humans.

When news of this blew up, there were 7 cases of a SARS-like virus according screenshots of the Chinese whistleblower doctor's DM's. Why was MSM freaking out over 7 cases? How could they know 7 cases would result in a massive pandemic?

Right from the start of the pandemic, there was heavy media control on all Western fronts including social media, where the government spread viral pictures of Asians eating bats (pictures were actually from Palau, a US territory). Disinformation on "China lied" was immediately spread.

The plan was to blame the Chinese eating bats because pointing to a lab would have people investigating and the investigation would lead back to America. When that plan backfired they all switched to the Wuhan lab leak theory in the middle of 2021 like clockwork. Social media no longer banned people for this "disinformation", all MSM outlets started pushing the lab leak theory. WHO started pushing the lab leak theory. Accused pedophiles like Stephen Colbert started pushing the lab leak theory. All at the same time.

It wasn't a leak. It was planted.

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

No you've got it wrong, my friend. I read in the BBC that it definitely came from this wet market in particular.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sorry this is nonsense.

The Chinese had their films of people dropping dead in the streets ready to go when the outbreak happened. Then we see hardly any deaths across China even though thousands of people were travelling. Rather the virus was purposely exported out around the world.

There's no evidence of the US having anything similar prepared.

I know you racists think foreigners can't do anything for themselves without the CIA planning it but that's simply not the case here.

China not only planned and released the virus but they thought it would be far more deadly than it was. They thought they had released something which would kill people as they walked around.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Why did BBC’s map exclude locations of WIV and WIID, which are obviously known to anyone in the news business who is writing about Covid, and are critically important to the story if they wanted to tell it truthfully?

Because if the article included these locations, it would be obvious to any reader that the article is total nonsense and is a completely laughable attempt at misdirection.

Therefore, BBC wanted to lie to us and mislead us by omission.

Typical faulty reasoning of the conspiracy theorist. Ask a question, make up an answer, then pretend it's proof of your theory.

I looked closely at the map in question. It was not produced by BBC, that's the first faulty presumption in this conspiracy theory. The map was made for the original study. Here is the map

https://www.science.org/cms/10.1126/science.abp8715/asset/d6d371ee-6273-4d3c-a507-849cc3cfb9fe/assets/images/large/science.abp8715-f1.jpg

And here is the study

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abp8715

The second faulty presumption in the conspiracy theory, is that BBC or the original scientists were under some obligation to label the Wuhan science facilities. There was no need to label any particular building, just because some building involves the favoured conspiracy theory of this author.

So they're wrong about who made the map (and you have to ask yourself why) and wrong to obnoxiously pretend the failure to label any particular landmark is proof of a theory.

So yeah this is dumb

[–]NuclearBadger 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

The bbc is a heap of horseshit and I object to you defending them.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Dude. The BBC didn't make this map. The scientists wrote a paper and produced their map without any news media company involved. Just like any blogger, youtuber, commentator, the BBC have reported on the study. And they used a map from the study to illustrate their story.

Nobody has done anything wrong here except for the substack author who incorrectly blamed BBC for the map labels, OP for posting it with that title, and you for continuing to blame BBC for just reporting on a study which was completed by British scientists, something totally in the BBC remit and British public interest. So I object to YOU

[–]NuclearBadger 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Cherry picking a map that shows no lab is exactly the kind of bollocks they do.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Oh my god you are being so stubborn...

They didn't cherry pick. They didn't label the map. They just took the illustration directly from the study which I linked above.

The nature of the study was, answering: where were the first COVID cases in relation to the wet market?

Because of that, they have dots on the map showing the first COVID cases. It would be pretty confusing to look at those dots and not also see where the wet market is, in relation to those.

It's not like some maps had the wet market labeled and some have train stations, schools, BIOLABS, bus stops - and BBC cherry picked the one with the web lab. No. They showed the map, THE map, not one of many, the jpeg I linked above. If you want a different study ran, about the biolabs, then do it, they have provided good data here, but this one was about the wet market.

I don't want you to just accept you were wrong and disappear. I want you to reply acknowledging that your suspicions about the BBC were misplaced here because YOU FELL FOR SOME MISINFO. Honestly nuclearBadger we won't be friends anymore if you don't read carefully, accept you were wrong on this particular case, take the L and reply letting me know you get it now. Because your stubbornness is wrong and totally unearned here.

[–]HPFL 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

BBC is NATO terrorist propaganda like all Western media hate speech. It is fake news. All Western media is fake news. It is white supremacist propaganda invented for no other reason than to manufacture consent for war against people of color to steal their land and natural resources and enslave their people. This gives the rest of the world the inalienable irrevocable right to do the same to absolutely anybody of European descent and we will. That’s social justice. That’s equity. That’s accountability. The west is dead. We will bury you. The rest of the world is rising up against the influence of European imperialist terrorism and if that involves retaliatory colonialism of Europe by people of color, so be it. It’s not imperialism when yts are on the receiving end of their own war crimes. It’s not genocide when the genocidal are the ones being targeted for it.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I already said, BBC are showing you a map produced by the scientists for the study. Criticise them if you dont like the map. You're not playing with a full deck of cards, are you, BOOTLICKER

[–]HPFL 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

More psychological projection in the defense of the oligarchy. The only one licking the boots of oligarchs here is you, and your racist hate campaign against the sovereign Asian nation that beat the old Nazis and will be the new Nazis is obvious. You are trying to manufacture consent for an illegal immoral imperialist yt supremacist war for oil. You are an anti-Asian racist and you belong in the Gulag. Freedom of speech does not apply to yt supremacist terrorist imperialist trash like you. Get off this website before I report you to the authorities so that they can lock you up and give you the proper treatment for your incitement to war against people of color by yt terrorists.

I have reported all your comments for spam, dragging down the pyramid of debate, and for your outright treason against President Trump and your illegal immoral terrorist hate speech against a sovereign Asian nation that beat Hitler before and will beat all Nazis everywhere today even if they need to use nuclear weapons to do it. If you continue to harass me with your bigoted and bullying hate speech and the defense of white supremacist imperialist terrorist wars for oil, then the Gulag will be the last thing you see before hell.

[–]NuclearBadger 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Actually went and read the article for 5 seconds, and straight away bbc claims animals sold had covid, but the article said vendors of the animals had it, no evidence any animals had it.

Not wasting my time when they are full of misleading bullshit.

Are you quad boosted by any chance?

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sorry I am a bit lost by your comment. I don't get what part you're calling bullshit.

Here is a study (emphasis mine)

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abp8715

The Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan was the early epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic

We report that live SARS-CoV-2 susceptible mammals were sold at the market in late 2019 and, within the market, SARS-CoV-2-positive environmental samples were spatially associated with vendors selling live mammals. While there is insufficient evidence to define upstream events, and exact circumstances remain obscure, our analyses indicate that the emergence of SARS-CoV-2 occurred via the live wildlife trade in China, and show that the Huanan market was the epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Here is how the BBC reported on it

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-62307383

Covid origin studies say evidence points to Wuhan market

the researchers say this evidence paints a picture that Sars-Cov-2 was present in live mammals that were sold at Huanan market in late 2019. They say it was transmitted into people who were working or shopping there in two separate "spillover events", where a human contracted the virus from an animal.

And then here is what you wrote

straight away bbc claims animals sold had covid, but the article said vendors of the animals had it, no evidence any animals had it.

I don't know which article you claim "said vendors of the animals had it, no evidence any animals had it". That's not what the study found. So I don't understand what you're calling bullshit on here.

Again, nuclearBadger, we have this pattern where you're making stubbornly incorrect comments after just 5 seconds of reading. I said we couldn't be friends any more if you didn't take the L here, and you haven't, you've instead doubled down again when you're wrong. I don't know where we go from here buddy

[–]HPFL 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Ok imperialist bootlicker

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Pointing out facts = licking boots? Is that right? So next time I see you point out a fact, I'll have to remember that

[–]HPFL 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Parroting yt supremacist imperialist lies of oligarchs is licking the boots of oligarchs. This is a hate account and it will be deleted. You literally do nothing but attack people who criticize your beloved oligarchy. And when called out on your racism and imperialism, you project it onto those who call it out.

[–]HPFL 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

“Conspiracy theory“ is a bootlicker buzz phrase used by oligarchic bullies and their bootlickers to discourage independent thoughts and promote obedience and conformity.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hello, it appears you're trying to point out some facts here, as we've learned that makes you a BOOTLICKER

Keep licking those boots, BOOTLICKER