If there was 6 million of them...

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No matter what actually happened and what the numbers actually maybe: The holocaust is just too easy to instrumentalize for influencing people.

In any direction.

Of course the Britons knew what was happening in Nazi-occupied territory from aerial photographs. But the wanted to pull the US into this war instead to save lives at their end of this stick or at least simulate to do so.

Because let's be honest: after Nazi Germany occupied France, strategically the Britons were completely fucked. If Göring had had more than two braincells, and less megalomania he and all his Nazis-in-command-"friends" relatively easy could have invaded the British islands with a spearhead of paratroopers and classical marines.

But this could have been very hard to resolve, even if they hadn't lost almost all of their Air-Force later for trying to carpet-bomb UK (which their Airforce wasn't built for), but surely was possible in a small time-frame to realize their so called "Operation Seelöwe".

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Hitler constantly tried to come to an agreement with England to stop the fighting. It was that jew Churchill who kept refusing.

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Correct, i believe. Churchill wanted actually an insane full scale world war. His own megalomania was the problem. Or he was too drunk to make an actually responsible decision in not sparing souls rather than possibly sacrificing his own "elite" position.

Honestly: He was a total fuck-up, before the Britons made him Prime Minister in WW2. Gallipoli he lost "planned" in WW1 so to say, because he was an idiot in military strategy, actually.

The Nazis "only" wanted Europe, before their megalomania made them decide to do the "sure-to-fail" "Operation Barbarossa" :

The Invasion of Russia.

[–]Rob3122[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

If they weren't fighting multiple wars on multiple fronts I believe they would've defeated Russia. They were destroying the Russians before the winter and advancing at a ridiculous pace. Ultimately mother nature and the numbers game caught up with them.

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The "German" problems possibly were more complex: Mussolini threatened to switch sides again like the Italians did in WW1 already, The Nazis had massive supply problems because of the British sea-blockades and when Hitler invaded Russia, Stalin stopped sending trains full of steel, obviously. Rubber also was a big problem and fuel even more, i believe. Stalin just put his industry behind the Ural Line and could wait for General Winter and also used the bad infrastructure (streets and so on) Russia had at this time.

I don't believe the Nazis could have occupied Russia with the Allies supplies Russia got from Convoys through Murmansk.

But the Britons and US did let them bleed a lot of souls intentionally in delaying a second front in Europe with only invading Sicily very late and the Normandy even almost too late, so to say.