Windsor Tower in Madrid, Spain burned for 20+ hours and never collapsed. No steel frame structure had ever collapsed due to fire, before or 9/11. On 9/11, 3 collapsed, due to "structural failure from fires".

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[–]package 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

This conspiracy theory is right up there with a flat earth as the most insane, retarded, reaching, illogical, scientifically and historically illiterate nonsense ever to be suggested and believed by people not actively smearing their own shit on the walls of their padded cells.

[–]proc0 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Is it a coincidence there haven't been anymore attempts at that scale ever since? Sure there have been some bombs here and there, but we're talking a crazy movie plot, stealing airplanes, defying the military, and crashing into buildings. Did the terrorist give up, did they just have that one grand plan? What was their point and why aren't they attempting more like this? Iraq had little to do with it anyway, so it's not like we struck at the heart of the terrorist camps. Surely they would have kept attacking at that scale after 20 years... it's almost like the war on terror was mostly fabricated.

All of these things add up, but people are too afraid of "conspiracy theories", which I think has been evident in the recent years with how news and media brainwashes the general population.

[–]package 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Is it a coincidence there haven't been anymore attempts at that scale ever since?

Wow it's almost like the aftermath of 9/11 spawned the TSA and drastically tightened security both on the ground and in the air, and passengers are now far more prone to stop hijackers.

Did the terrorist give up, did they just have that one grand plan? What was their point and why aren't they attempting more like this?

Maybe because there was an invasion going on and they went into hiding?

it's almost like the war on terror was mostly fabricated.

This does not require that the wtc attacks were a setup. Would it not be far more reasonable to assume that the state had a desire to invade iraq (or any country in the middle east) and was just waiting for an excuse?

[–]proc0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This does not require that the wtc attacks were a setup. Would it not be far more reasonable to assume that the state had a desire to invade iraq (or any country in the middle east) and was just waiting for an excuse?

Those two things are possible at the same time. I'm also not saying anything with certainty, and I'm avoiding talking about the actual incident because it's already talked about at length. If they crashed a plane into a building, I would think they'd have more tricks of that type to try around the world. It really feels like they just gave up and had a couple decades of regular attempts, which I think suspiciously coincides with the time before people had cellphone cameras. I don't think terrorists would care if they get recorded because they go on suicide missions, however the government would definitely care if everyone has cameras.

For the most part I think questions cannot be asked (recently it was literally put on a watchlist), which to me is the main problem. Government took away privacy because of the incident, yet asking to be transparent is too much. That's at least very suspicious.

[–]Insider 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, the astroturfs here aren't gonna give any real explanation. Here are some of the discrepancies:

  • buildings collapsed demolition style. According to the original engineers, even a 300 ton 747 would do “nothing” to the integrity of the buildings

  • NIST paint testing found that less than 2% of the steel ever even made it to 480 degrees F. Your oven can handle 480 F.

  • Steel loses half its strength at 1,100F which would still be more than enough strength to support the building, but at the NIST estimated 480F steel temperatures (not gas) the steel hardly loses any strength at all.

  • multiple MSM outlets connected to intel agencies reported the collapse of WTC7 before it even happened

  • nano-thermitic particles found in the debris/dust

  • massive elevator renovations before the event with some floors completely shut down

  • There was a power shut down on the weekend

  • Paul Bremer, friend of the Bushes and prior CEO of Marsh and Mclennan, who leased the exact floors of the impact and had “special fireproofing” put specially on those floors, mysteriously missed work that day and was on the news blaming Osama Bin Laden as 9/11 happened!

  • witnesses and testimonies of explosions/bombs going off (~118 witnesses)

  • Witnesses were suppressed, many started dropping dead (suicide, heart attacks) and some received death threats

  • Phillip Marshall, an experience pilot who exposed details of 9/11 in his book was killed along with his family, children and pet. https://www.amazon.com/Big-Bamboozle-11-War-Terror/dp/1468094580

  • WTC 7 building water and sprinkler systems were shut off / put in “Test” mode early the morning of 9/11

  • Larry Silverstein also became Leaseholder of World Trade Center Buildings a few months prior to 9/11, he paid $15M for the 99 year lease and quickly insured it against domestic and foreign terrorism in which he received a $5 Billion dollar payout

  • Larry Silverstein ate breakfast at “Windows On The World” at the top of the Trade Center every single morning since July 2001, except for on 9/11 https://youtu.be/er5sKb8aXv0 (His children who worked in the WTC also happened to miss work that day)

  • Larry Silverstein created plans for a new World Trade Center in 2000 https://youtu.be/j-_WYHwUtcI

  • cover up and obstruction of investigation after the event (6 out of 10 of the 9/11 commissioners said they weren't able to do their job)

  • insufficient NIST report, contradicting itself on the reason for collapse. No actual scientific explanation to date.

  • numerous pilots claim they weren't skilled enough to fly the planes into the building, yet we're expected to believe some brown ppl with minimal training were able to do it

  • Bin Laden denying responsibility

  • Unclear video and translation/transcript of Al-Qaeda as "evidence"

  • For 1 hour and 40 minutes the hijackers flew around in highly restricted airspace. Only 4 jets were left in US north east airspace that day, the rest had been moved to Canada.