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[–]passionflounder 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

They only think and believe what CNN tells them.

[–]Canbot[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think the problem is worse than that. If it were just that they latched on to a leader figure like CNN or some talking head then you could expose them to the many lies that this entity has told and over time break that control.

What I think is really happening is that they worship authority. They perceive those who are prominent, like tv personalities and celebrities, as more intelligent than everyone else. Furthermore, they worship scientism which is the unquestioning belief in anything that is purported to be science. So when a prominent figure tells them something is scientifically proven that is like the pope telling a very devout catholic that he had a vision from God.

So by controlling nearly all of the talking heads, and all the media the fascist corporatocracy controls all the sheep. If one of these idols falls the sheep will simply follow a different one. They will go from one authority figure to the next, all of whom are controlled by the system.

That is why any conversation that goes deep enough ends at "they can't all be lying". The sheep can "reason" so long as there is another authority figure to run to. But they can never abandon the system. The system is truth.

[–]StillLessons 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

They perceive those who are prominent, like tv personalities and celebrities, as more intelligent than everyone else.

This is part of it, but to complete the thought, they perceive themselves as more intelligent than everyone else. It's this fundamental condescension that is the motivating ethos of this group of people. As long as they can find people who will support their delusion of moral superiority, they are secure that their life has meaning. They are incapable of approaching a world that does not run according to their rule book. If the rules are not their rules, they are convinced the world will collapse. This is amplified narcissism at a level that is mind-boggling to watch.

[–]Canbot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

they perceive themselves as more intelligent than everyone else.

They certainly perceive themselves as more intelligent than those who do not believe authority, but they do not see themselves as intelligent as the authorities. For example they say "trust the doctors". Anyone who does is in thier eyes smarter than anyone who doesn't. But they also believe it is beyond thier ability to understand the science as a doctor would. So when you present peer reviewed studies that contradict the narrative they don't even attempt to consider it. Nor do they ever attempt to argue on the basis of science, logic, or facts. Those are left to the realm of thinkers. The clergy of thier religion.

And the catch is that this may in fact be the best way for them to live. A sheep in the wild would be dead In a week. So even though the sheep on the farm get slaughtered it would not be in thier interest to revolt against the farmer. The sheep have no hope of running thier own farm.

I wonder how much this analogy translates.

[–]portace 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When you present the evidence that they're all lying, usually the sheep are convinced.

But you need to have them sit down and show them hours of self-incriminating evidence. You can't just go "they all lie" and expect them to believe you.