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[–]Canbot 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

The dead internet theory.

Everyone is in thier own controlled environment. Talk to people IRL.

[–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

But IRL people are normies to whom the MSM narratives are real. It's good to know real people, but it still isn't an escape from an artificial world / the matrix.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Red pill them.

[–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Would that it were so simple.

[–]FlippyKing 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

great movie!

[–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Indeed it is. I absolutely adore the Coen brothers, and this is one of their better ones if you ask me. What the film tells me: we can only get so far by relying on reason alone, and at one point we have to go by intuition and have faith that, in spite of all the risks, we should act morally and resist temptation in whatever form it comes. The directors are Jewish, and they portray a Jewish mindset in other films, but in this one they take on Christianity and they did a perfect job. What are your favourite films by them?

[–]FlippyKing 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I haven't seen most of them, I just noticed. I looked at their IMDB page. I'm surprised the Hudsucker Proxy is theirs. I loved that but haven't seen in it so very long.

Hail Caesar is so good. I don't really think the Christianity is the major theme in Hail Caesar, the proletariat screen writers, and the easily duped actor I think is a bigger theme. How different is Ryan Reynolds or Channing Tatum (the actor in the sailor suit getting on the Russian sub in a very surreal scene they are so good at sticking into their movies with no real setup or explaination) and George Clooney? But, it's just a day at the office for the guy who slaps sense into Clooney, so that it is a very wierd "slice of life" movie is pretty neat.

Raisin Arizona I loved. Buster Scrubs takes a turn they love to take in their movies, and the afterlife scene and what I'd call mysticism around that scene is really worth just appreciating for how they did it. For some reason it, the ending, reminds me of Pan's Labyrinth.

Barton Fink deals with I guess a Judaeo-Christian theme but but it really is more like Karma. That movie leaves you with a lot to wrestle with, well me anyway. No Country for Old Men, is that a slice of life movie from Tommy Lee Jone's character's point of view where the embodiment of evil is just what this guy deals with? It's a well made movie. I didn't really get the villain but I guess blind evil isn't really understandable. So much randomness in their movies and how it is intertwined with fate. They definitely have a point of view that is unique.

I didn't know that True Grit remake was theirs. I'm going to have to watch it soon.

How "Jewish" are they though? I guess they are culturally Jewish, but are they religious? I assume they're American so they probably have a perspective on Christianity that reflects what every forms were dominate where they grew up, unless they grew up in a Jewish neighborhood. The distribution of types of Christianity in the US is uneven, you have areas where Lutherans are everywhere, some areas where Catholics are everywhere, the south is largely Baptist and I think Methodist. So, I wonder, if religion is a big part of the areas they explore in their movies (but maybe it's just spirituality, which is easy to explore in the arts because creation has some mystery to it for sure) what mix they were exposed to or drawn to might impact that.

[–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't really think the Christianity is the major theme in Hail Caesar, the proletariat screen writers, and the easily duped actor I think is a bigger theme.

Can those really be called themes, though? I think of them simply as plot points.

Barton Fink deals with I guess a Judaeo-Christian theme but but it really is more like Karma.

Barton Fink is in part why I noted the Coen brothers' Jewishness, but even moreso because of A Serious Man. Karma-like mechanics are even more present in that film.

That movie leaves you with a lot to wrestle with, well me anyway.

Pun intended?

How "Jewish" are they though? I guess they are culturally Jewish, but are they religious?

When I say someone is Jewish, I don't necessarily mean they're religious; about half of the Jews are religious. I don't think the Coen brothers are religious. There are other films that have religious or spiritual themes even though the director is agnostic; examples are Pulp Fiction and Pi.

But back to A Serious Man. Kabbalah, which is Judaism's mystical dimension, plays a big role in it, and they must have spent a considerable time studying it. They were probably exposed to it during childhood, as they were reared by religious parents, and must've maintained an interest in it into adulthood, regardless of whether or not they remained observant Jews. Perhaps it became more of an academic interest. I've studied kabbalah, and I was reminded of this film constantly.

[–]FlippyKing 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting, so I'd say yes if they were raised Jewish then that is going to be theme in their works, just like someone raised Catholic will probably use that kind of mystery-focus or mysticism that someone raised Baptist would not.