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[–]LarrySwinger2 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yes. But what stupid thing did they make people do with the threat of nuclear war? (That's actually more related to the cold war than now.)

Another overlooked one is mass spying. If Edward Snowden is in fact a spook (which he appears to be; he fails the 9/11 litmus test), then what was the purpose of telling everyone they're being spied on? Was it to intimidate would-be whistleblowers? To prevent people from enlightening others about future psy-ops on social media? I'm not saying that we aren't actually being spied on by three-letter agencies. But perhaps it was a calculated revelation by the very same people.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not sure, but is seems to me that we are being forced to choose sides. I still hold the view that Russia is false opposition, given his history of socializing with the NWO cult. I think they'll blame Russian hackers for crashing the internet, before internet 2.0 is released, where everyone will have a digital ID.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed. It's the 1984 plan to a tee: Oceania at war with Eurasia. No, with Eastasia. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

Make a tripolar world, seemingly playing them against each other, using the "wars" as simple population control, good times for the demonic scumbags.

[–]OrionBlastar 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

During the Clinton administration they spied on US Citizens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivore_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Lantern_(software)

The NSA has a backdoor in Windows: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/57538/microsoft-gives-nsa-backdoor-complains-exploits/index.html

Yes we are being spied on. Snowden wrote his own spyware for the CIA.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Snowden most likely was a modified limited hangout.

I switched my point of view on this several times but after all the time i spend with this incident, i believe that much of the info he published was an effort to bring people and sheeple to self-censor more.

The reasoning behind this seems simple: It is much more cost efficient to nudge the masses into self-censorship than invest the same kind of money into breaking and entering into some very sophisticated FOSS-tools. Fear is a nice tool according to Machiavelli. It is really hard to fight or offset with a rational approach.

[–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, that's what I mean.

[–]jet199 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The funny thing is at the moment the real issue is to distract you from legitimate fear.

You aren't to worry about inflation through the roof or the incoming economic collapse.

Keep up your confidence and keep spending, little people.

[–]jostiniane 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Today's Joe bill is just a proof of that.. While US media is making sure everyone is shitting themselves because of a nuclear winter, they signed a Trillion+ budget bill and Ukraine + Israel are getting a lot of free money from it.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

“Elites” require you to not name the Jew.

[–]xkingxkaosx 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Fear based control is an effective tool they used for thousands of years

[–]StillLessons 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You beat me to this comment. Nothing new under the sun...

[–]FlippyKing 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It shows that the current order, which might be "current" since the first empires even existed, is disordered. This disordering can be seen either to be of a theological or supernatural nature or simply as a disordering from the Mutual Aid idea of Kropotin's that serves as a rebalancing away from ridiculous abuses of various kinds of "Darwinisms" (social, political, there's even a theological Darwinism, each are errors by any sense of the word and each are abuses of the legitimate ides in scientific theories of evolution).

In the same way that making workers subservient to their bosses, making them wholly dependent on their employment to someone who has money to pay them to support themselves and their families, invites abuses of that relationship. It creates a disordering of human and social relationships. Putting governments above their populations so the populations must serve the will of those governments is also a disordering of that relationship. This is regardless of what kind of government it is. Autocracies under a self-serving tyrant or oligarchy are obviously wrong. But so is a false kind of democracy where public opinion is filled with lies, misconceptions, and misunderstandings (historically, scientifically, morally, and even of current events), which are always at least partially fueled by all these various competitions people and groups are forced into by the disordered hierarchical relationships.

The guy who wants everyone to shut up do what the cops say or to work diligently for some boss to maintain order but complains about Justin Castro/Fidel Trudeau and Beijing Biden, is no less myopic than the over-educated middle class kid larping as the vanguard of a revolution that has everyone jabbed up because a false medical authority tells them to get jabbed, and has everyone compelled to use gender affirming pronouns because a false medical authority pretends gender is a thing that matters, and who wants to shut down all live stock on farms and make everyone eat bugs and tofu and industrial waste protein paste because some false authority says it is the only way to save the planet (while protecting the current dis-order).

Elites require us to fear them and everything because they realize they are selling a false religion where they are "god" or at least in the fake-angelic hierarchy so long as they do what who ever is above them says they should do. They fear the truth, that they are only elite because too many believe lies, and they fear the possibility that enough of us might realize that truth and more importantly admit to each other that we realize that truth.

Of course if we do all realize that and admit to each other that we realize it, but we do not seek a proper ordering of these kinds of relationships (probably from the ground up) we will only make a new disordered set of relationships. I think, as a most unexpected religious person (I being the most surprised by that occurrence), that would please their ultimate master who gets off on schadenfreude out of a genuine hatred for us all, and so I think exposing the lies that keep this hell on earth running is only part of the solution.

We have to reacquaint ourselves with what virtues are and what it means to be a well-ordered person before we can imagine a well-ordered society. A well ordered society can not have whole communities unable to provide for themselves their own material needs.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The harsh truth is that people with a shitload of money try to convince much poorer people to give even their last dime as "humanitarian" aid.

While mainly they themselves destroy and pollute this planet with money that is made with blue-collar aching backs that more and more break under the constantly growing stress level. Made by people who actually just want to make a living or support a family.

[–]fschmidt 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It isn't that when people are afraid they act low IQ, but rather because people are already low IQ, fear can be used to make them obedient. So the problem isn't really the elites, but rather the moronic population.

[–]Jackalope 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I know some very high IQ people who buy into the propaganda hook, line and sinker. High IQ people can believe in all manner of very stupid and irrational things. I also know some very stupid people who do not buy into the propaganda, but their reasoning is completely bonkers.

It would seem to me that IQ and the ability to think independently are both aspects of resisting propaganda techniques

[–]fschmidt 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Actually you are right, but my main point is that fear doesn't make people low IQ. Lack of independent thinking makes people obedient. So rephrasing the above: So the problem isn't really the elites, but rather the population of moronic sheep.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He wrote that fear makes people ACT low IQ. Act stupid. Which... IT DOES. Have a loaded and cocked gun pointed at your head and try to solve a complex problem. In such circumstances, even an individual such as you would understand.

In the end, if your view is shaped by the desire to see yourself as superior to others, you will succeed in that. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. But then again you'd need a modicum of actual smarts to realize that.

[–]Jackalope 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

So the problem isn't really the elites, but rather the population of moronic sheep.

Yeah, I am in agreement.