Drugs like amphetamines are dangerous and need to be illegal for your protection. Unless you are an 8 year old who won't sit still in a desk for 8 hours, then amphetamines are safe and effective. If you don't get it, you aren't trusting the $cience hard enough

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Doesn't seem normal for 8yr olds to sit still for 8 hours, or was that your point? Title has me a little confused.

These meds are mostly used to boost poor performing students. Little Johnny isn't a C student cause he has ADD, he's just dumb. He does better in school on amphetamines like anyone would.

I don't think we should give these drugs to kids at all, but I do believe most amphetamines should be OTC again like they were in the 70s for adults. Not including meth, that should remain prescription only. It's just too much fun and consequently too addictive.

I lost two of my closest friends to meth. I mean, sort of. Amphetamines are rarely fatal as an overdose, it's the damage they do running your body amped up. One suddenly dropped dead at 36, the other was found dead in the morning at 42 as he was getting ready for work.

That was illegal meth too, the legality didn't stop them.

But if they could have just gotten amphetamines instead legally, maybe they'd still be here.

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Haha, hey Muskrat, sorry, I can understand the confusion. My point was that 'societally' we accept both this things to be true, but they appear to be mutually exclusive. Just questioning our so called conventional wisdom, and provoking a little debate

But yes, a sub-point was that its not a pathology for an 8 year old to have trouble sitting in a desk for 8 hours a day, it's just inconvenient for the authority figures or as you suggest, parental desire for good grades, and I think that is highly problematic when the solution is powerful drugs.

Kinda outside the scope of my original point, but agree with with you on amphetamines and drugs too. I don't like prohibiting stuff in general - I like to smoke weed, and feel like it's nobody else's business to tell me I can't. On the other hand...amphetamines are way more dangerous and addictive than weed. I had some friends get into that too when I was in my late teens/early 20's, and it turned them in thieving sociopathic junkies until they eventually got off that stuff or I'm sure they wouldve ended up like your friends. This all goes back to my post about the seatbelts I guess, and yeah, I'm not sure where the line should be.

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thieving sociopathic junkies

I've heard some truly, truly horrific stories at meetings. It is not a given that junkies steal though. I never did. There are 5 ways to get drugs without money that don't involve fucking anyone over. Some people are just not very good people when push comes to shove.

A lot of heavy drug use does mess with your head, sociopath thing might be unavoidable lol.

I like to smoke weed

Fuck yeah!