Drugs like amphetamines are dangerous and need to be illegal for your protection. Unless you are an 8 year old who won't sit still in a desk for 8 hours, then amphetamines are safe and effective. If you don't get it, you aren't trusting the $cience hard enough

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Nobody decides they don't want to try heroin because they can't get it. Etc.

Anybody can get it, if they want it.

People are far more responsible than they are credited with.
Let families, communities, and the churches deal with their internal social problems.

Governments shouldn't be in the business of banning substances from their citizens. Period.

Government intervention leads to more government intervention.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

I think amphetamines can be good if used sparingly but parents ought to be fully informed before giving it to their kids which they are usually not, don't understand the risks.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Also, ADD, ADHD etc. are vaccine injuries.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

They are anti-injuries caused by lack of beatings.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I have an ADD diagnosis and also had the super combo beatings deal with extra beatings on the side.

I suspect RoundUp.

[–]Antarchomachus[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

ADD diagnosis here too. Didn't know that was connected to the RoundUp glyphosate stuff, but have little trouble believing it. It's shocking the amount of industrial poison we end up consuming without full knowledge of the damage we are doing to ourselves

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Didn't know that was connected to the RoundUp glyphosate stuff,

It isn't, but it would fit with the timing and scope. Like the introduction of vaccines is right about the time we started encountering autism, although there are no generally accepted links.

It's shocking the amount of industrial poison we end up consuming

Indeed.

[–]Antarchomachus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah that whole thing... I never questioned any of it until this current vaccine ordeal, but it sounds like it could be a case of can't find what we refuse to look for. There's been a couple multi-million dollar settlements for vaccine induced autism, so the Pharma's that settled must have had some concern about the evidence. The epidemiological data you mention is highly suggestive of a correlation as well. Not definitive proof, but not the conspiracy theory it's made out to be either

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I never questioned any of it until this current vaccine ordeal

Same here. I thought those conspiracy people were fucking nuts. And I'm not saying they're right, but it's worth taking a really good look into. The timing is there.

There's been a couple multi-million dollar settlements for vaccine induced autism, so the Pharma's that settled must have had some concern about the evidence

Not necessarily. Would you give a homeless man who is bothering you $1, that in this scenario is totally insignificant to you, to go away if your only other option is to spend the next several hours bothered by him?

Kinda the same thing. Companies like that just operate on a much higher monetary level than most individuals. Before he retired my father used to work on billion dollar deals for large companies. He once requisitioned a million dollar SUN computer for a project like you or I might requisition a stapler. Although, I never have requisitioned a stapler tbh.

Plea bargains in court are similar. It makes sense to plea even if you're innocent. It is costly and time consuming to defend your innocence.

[–]Antarchomachus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You make some good points. I know can fall victim to the confirmation bias thinking of : hey these Pharma guys are liars are criminals, I'm going to drastically lower my bar for analyzing evidence that suggests something similar"

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There was quite a good documentary in the UK where a bunch of ADD kids were taught mindfulness and most were able to come of their medication. That's points to behaviour and upbringing being the main issue.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I like mindfulness, use it myself for pain and insomnia sometimes, but I don't see how it's not disassociation. Disassociated is viewed as a bad thing unless they call it mindfulness. I know they say it isn't the same thing but unless I'm doing it wrong, they're the same thing. I don't know why disassociation is a bad thing. And really, it has to be worse than what the meds do to you, or can do to you, to be a worse option.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These injuries appeared out of the blue. Timing coincides.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

yeah the vaccines might be useful but shouldn't be given till age 18 when one can decide.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Which ones are useful?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

good question I guess none of them work and I wouldn't get any personally but I'd want over 18 adults to have the freedom to get a vaccine if they want to.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nominative determinism strikes again!

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also, I'm not saying they're inherently bad. Let people decide for themselves.

[–]Cornfed 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Historically this is not necessarily true. Ease of access often leads to huge percentages of people becoming addicted.