Holocaust Denial Arguments: Himmler's order on Dec. 28, 1942 to reduce the death rate in the camps as a priority.

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

holocaust didn't happen, if it did there wouldn't be jews in control of us today

[–]Antarchomachus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I mean clearly all the Jews on the planet were not killed this is true, not sure this is proof that Germany never did bad things to Jews

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Here is something about their role in the communist coup attempts of 1919 and general corruption in Germany:

https://saidit.net/s/C_S_T/comments/vy4/the_jewish_role_in_the_german_communist/

Holocaust Denial is just the conspiracy theory, that the Jews either fabricated or greatly exaggerated the losses and methods of the kills for their own ends. My own belief is that the true kill count can be anywhere between 0 to 10,000.

I don't think any civilian kill was justified either, but the mainstream narratives are so full of shit and biased against the Germans that a lot of people, not just the Jews could be held acountable for a lot of things. You say you can't see the Germans as sympathetic? so do you think the Allied forces were heroes or something? if we conveniently assume that the true kill count is something like 5,000, while a very nasty crime, it objectively isn't the worst crime in the war at all. And what about all the shit the Germans had to endure before the war started? What about the crimes commited by the Soviets and the Allied forces?

The historical accuracy of mainstream revisionists and historians is a fucking joke. Germany was turned into a scapegoat for the war and all its evils. To this day I haven't seen a piece of evidence pointing out an intentional attempt to commit genocide against the Jews. If anything, I'm sure the ridiculous conditions of the camps with whore houses and theaters was held together at least until 1944, probably all the way until the Allies bombed the shit out of the supply lines and caused a crisis in the country despite the protests of the Red Cross. Even the Allied autopsies confirm that disease was the main cause of death in the camps:

https://saidit.net/s/C_S_T/comments/8p9h/holocaust_denial_arguments_the_allied_autopsies/

[–]Antarchomachus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for the info Hibiki, I will look more into these sources. I am sympathetic to what you are saying here and find it quite reasonable.

Would the allies exaggerate the Nazi crimes? yeah they would. Were the allies hero's? Hell no, I know we were selling weapons to both sides, and only got involved when it became clear that the Allies were going to lose and be unable to pay us for their weapon purchases made on credit. Mainstream history IS a joke, and I am sure a large of amount of German scapegoating happened - its easy to do when racism and camps are involved, because that doesn't inspire much sympathy.

I think a lot more people would give this kind of theory more consideration if it were framed as holocaust exaggerationism/scapegoatism rather than as 'denialism'. Denial is such a loaded word - I think Beauchamp's Terrain Theory has some credibility, but if you look it up on Google you get an a Wikipedia article called 'Germ Theory Denialism' - this puts conspiracy theorists in an impossible position to justify their beliefs to curious individuals