Did the CIA kill JFK? Oliver Stone on his explosive new film [JFK Revisited: Through The Looking Glass] (22:01) ~ The Grayzone

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[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (23 children)

The CIA had a splinter group of Zionists and protestants within its department.

Am I being to simple minded by wondering if Operation 40 was associated, perhaps only in part on a Venn diagram or something.

freemasonic friend 'Southern Israelite' or Mr. Drake, who was exposed as being a Freemason just recently by an astute researcher on bitchute with documents.

Not sure if this curious drama is intriguing or tedious. Link?

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If you dive into the ongoing HibikiBlack/Jesus debate, let me know what you find out.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (21 children)

If you dive into the ongoing HibikiBlack/Jesus debate, let me know what you find out.

I'm not sure what you mean. In my limited subjective humble opinion, /u/Jesus is accurate on faith, biblical, and Zionist matters and /u/HibikiBlack is not and believes Jesuits are higher in the hierarchy than Zionists which he rarely criticizes if ever. In addition to intriguing Jesuit conspiracy theories, Hibiki also shares a lot of terrific factual large-scale systemic corruption / conspiracy content. And recently his passions got the better of him.

"Integrity is an intangible asset, difficult to acquire, and once lost, nearly impossible to regain."

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (20 children)

I'll be more liberal about criticizing Zionism from now on. It's not so much that I believe that there aren't legit Ultra-Zionist groups out there, It's just that to me the Jesuits are simply way more relevant (To me Ultra-Zionist don't even own their own lands or control their own Intelligence) and since they have the tendency of using the Jews as deflector shields, people should be very skeptical about the anti-Zionist theories and they roam around without moderation. I even have the view that many of them are pushed by the CIA goons themselves, with the Jesuits creating the theories out of thin air...

But I recently learned that being authoritarian really doesn't work on you guys either way. So I'll be more liberal about this stuff. People forget that I have the biggest arsenal when it comes to things like Holocaust Denial and such, It's just that I rarely show it. I wouldn't taking the lead when it comes to extreme revisionism on the site itself, it will be a fun way to test Saidit's free speech platform to the limit. The Germans may be able to get rid of the Holocaust industry, or even "Character Assassinate" the Jews, depending on how low the true kill count really is.

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I have the biggest arsenal when it comes to things like Holocaust Denial and such,

Holocaust Denial

The phrasing both you and Jesus use is really difficult to parse, imo. It's like one (okay, me) would need to sit down and spend time analyzing each sentence to figure out the intended meaning. Using the word denial for a topic typically means an accusation of someone scoffing at truth, but later you refer to "the true kill count."

I even have the view that many of them are pushed CIA goons themselves, with the Jesuits creating the theories out of thin air...

What the heck is a "pushed CIA goon"? And what theories are Jesuits creating out of thin air? Then when you guys exchange multiple 10,000 character comments of those obtuse claims and refutations, it becomes a little difficult to follow. To be fair, I'm probably not your target audience, but the energy you both put into it has me curious about the fundamental argument.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I meant "pushed by" sorry. Just check my Catholic records of anti-Semitic propaganda in my Jesuit sub to see how the Jesuits have been pushing the anti-Semitic myths like crazy over the years and the CIA itself being anti-Semitic. It's one of the stickied posts. That's why as far as I'm concerned, the anti-Semitic theories need to be moderated, they are extremely dangerous.

Holocaust Denial is the conspiracy theory that the Jews either faked or greatly exaggerated the losses for their own benefit. There's a difference between a 100, 200, 300 total kill count vs the 6 million figure because it just doesn't hold up to the myth of legend. My own belief is that the true kill count is somewhere between the 0-10K point.

Just because our posts are long isn't an excuse to not pay attention to the arguments. That's actually a lazy as fuck excuse.

You could say /u/Jesus is my background record, to say the least. I don't like him and he doesn't like me, there's no need to go deeper than that for now...

[–]Node 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Just because our posts are long isn't an excuse to not pay attention to the arguments. That's actually a lazy as fuck excuse.

My actual excuse is, more properly, I have 30 hours of browsing and commenting to do per day (7 windows 179 tabs), and only 16 hours to do it in. Plus I need to eat and do real life stuff sometimes. A bit exaggerated, aside from the tab count, but the point is I can't keep up with everything.

The retardation of the masses means that in our desperately overpopulated world, some group or groups will be running the human farms, no matter what. It's always been that way when human concentrations get too high. If that could be fixed, then the details of management would be a lot more relevant. /blackpill

https://www.corbettreport.com/bigoil/

Are you familiar with the beginning of big jew?

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Blackpill indeed. Till the soil, work on yourself.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why do you think the world is desperately overpopulated? Is a resource too scarce?

[–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Mainly, because of the number of people. Look at earth's surface on any type of map. You'll see human activity virtually everywhere. Fly across the US, and out your window you'll see most of the surface converted to industrial food production. Places like NYC, LA, and Chicago exist. "Suburbs" are a thing.

You're somewhat newer, so it may seem more normal. It's just the 'new normal', which would be a literal hell to people from less overpopulated times.

I only do this half-hearted rant on occasion, because it seems clear that humans are destined by character to self-destruct. We would face none of our current problems with a sustainable population level, but we're unable to self-regulate. Our agenda as a species appears to be Cancerous growth at all costs.

While I was too young to appreciate it, a world with fewer than 3 billion people was pretty nice, comparatively. Looking back from current year, it's almost like we've entered the Christian tribulation.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

/u/node

Catholic records of anti-Semitic propaganda in my Jesuit sub to see how the Jesuits have been pushing the anti-Semitic myths like crazy over the years and the CIA itself being anti-Semitic.

CIA was never anti-Jew, not even during the OSS days. Today, it is anything but anti-Jew. Secondly, Catholic Jesuits, not Marrano Jews pretending to be Jesuits, were certainly critical of Jews, and for good reason.

Anti-Semitism, DOESN'T exist. The term is meaningless and was cooked up by German intellectuals in the 18th century. It's not only a misnomer that Zionist Jews monopolized for their faux identity but it has no purpose other than to propagate ethnonationalism and racism. Not even Palestinians are semitic, and I must admit that I had believed this 'semitic' semantics buffoonery for longer than I'd like to admit.

Why hibikiblack does not use the word anti-Jew or anti-Jewish sentiment is beyond me but that might give away his true views and positions on this matter, which are already fairly evident.

It's one of the stickied posts. That's why as far as I'm concerned, the anti-Semitic theories need to be moderated, they are extremely dangerous.

Interesting, like uselessaether, who called me a CIA agent, as did hibikiblack, hibikiblack like uselessaether claims that antisemitism must be moderated because "it's dangerous." Okay, call the ADL and get on that then hibs.

Holocaust Denial is the conspiracy theory that the Jews either faked or greatly exaggerated the losses for their own benefit. There's a difference between a 100, 200, 300 total kill count vs the 6 million figure because it just doesn't hold up to the myth of legend. My own belief is that the true kill count is somewhere between the 0-10K point.

Reasonable... the total who died according to revisionists is between 230,000-600,000 (all creeds and nationalities) mostly from typhus and starvation due to allied bombed railways and infrastructure and German food blockade. Likely 10,000-75,000 were murdered/executed from 1934-1945. Keep in mind the 27 thesis of the Nazi party which included the execution of speculators who made their income off the suffering of another German, whatever their creed. The Nazi economic revolution, had it been implemented today, 100,000 plus speculators on Wallstreet would likely face execution or harsh punishment.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I'm a traditional Catholic, that's primarily why I disagree with nearly everything hibikiblack writes ... the other reason, because his posts are ahistorical.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'll just say, Catholic doctrine is contrary to the Christian (KJV) bible on a number of fairly relevant points. Doctrine debating is not something I do, but the info is out there.

Aside from those, if I were a Catholic, I'd be a little unsettled to be in a religion where the leaders regularly engage in child rape, and drug-fueled homosexual orgies in their billion dollar headquarters.

Christian sects aren't much better off, although they tend to discourage sexual degeneracy a bit more. However, most of those tend to fully embrace the degenerate modern world, which makes them obviously corrupt. Organized religion tends to be more about human desires than not.

Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Worth looking into for a long-term plan, imo.

Otherwise, good posts and no vote manipulation is a definite plus. :)

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I disagree, Catholic doctrine upholds Christ as savior and is the only institution that has witheld the passage of time. However, the modern Catholic church, after Vatican II, when Marrano Jews, homosexuals and communists took over is anything but Catholic. A simple reading of Pope Leo XIII will suffice to show the true standing of traditional Catholicism ie., Catholicism.

Pope Beegoglio is a Marrano. That i'm sure of. Secondly, you write:

...if I were a Catholic, I'd be a little unsettled to be in a religion where the leaders regularly engage in child rape, and drug-fueled homosexual orgies in their billion dollar headquarters.

The Catholic Church was very strong on sexual abuse before Vatican II. Today, due to the growing problem and publicity, partly due to Zionist media, which hates the Church, it's very safe for Children to be members of the mystical body of Christ, if in the hands of trad. Catholics.

Christian sects aren't much better off, although they tend to discourage sexual degeneracy a bit more. However, most of those tend to fully embrace the degenerate modern world, which makes them obviously corrupt. Organized religion tends to be more about human desires than not.

Monastery life and the saints paint a different picture. You're explaining human nature, freewill... people make their own decisions and are always tempted by evil.

Now your claim about sexual molestation in the church, as if all the leaders are predators, is a lie. 1 homosexual has 4 underage molestations compared to 1 out of every 11 heterosexual... What about the Catholic Church and Teachers?

Ratio it out; 500,000,000 heterosexuals est. 45 million cases of underage molestation as opposed to 2 billion for homosexuals if populations were similar. The frequency of molestation in the homosexual community is markedly concerning but we know not all homosexuals molest children so there is a subset in this population that molests at a frequency unfathomable.

Zionist media, who hate Christians, is hush about this, doesn't care.

Zionist media then says the Catholic church is the devil and preists have a pedophilia problem even though before Nostra Aetate homosexuality was seen as a detrimental sin and pedophilia even moreso. Communists and Judeo-Opei have worked to subvert the church, induce schisms that destroy the santification of grace and the Catholic tradition. There is little talk about traditional Catholics and the church that existed before Marrano and Rabbinics took over the Church. Why no talk about Orthodox Jews and molestation cases, or better yet, why not the wonderful public school system?

Teachers abuse 100 times more than priests...

4,392 priests and deacons had allegations of child sexual abuse from 1950 to 2002 against 10, 667 children, representing approximately 4% of all priests in the United States in that time period.” Orthodox Jews molest at a 5-6% frequency.[3] There are 321,500 victims of sexual assault each year, and despite the amount of media coverage the Catholic Church receives, an overwhelming majority of assaults are committed by people other than priests.

The U.S. Department of Education found that 5% to7% of public school teachers engage in sexual abuse of children per year.[6] In addition, a small scale study found that 4% of Anglican priests had sexually abused minors in western Canada and other religious leaders and clerics engage in this type of behavior as well.[7] Despite a higher offender rate among public school teachers and similar offender rates in other religions, the media’s incessant coverage of the Catholic priest scandal leads to the public misconception that Catholic priests are responsible for a majority of child sexual abuse cases, when this simply is not true. Sexual abuse offenders are not limited to one specific profession or type of religion. Any person in any potential job, position, or lifestyle has the potential of being a sexual abuse offender.

Another myth that the media plays into is that clerical celibacy leads to pedophilia, however, there is no research to support this allegation.[8] [9] In fact, roughly 80% of sex abuse offenders are men, who are not celibate and are often married or in a relationship.[10] [11] These men often abuse children within their own families or homes.[12] Furthermore, of the public school teachers who have sexually abused children, most are married or non-celibate, and somehow, public school teachers tend to offend in this way at a higher rate (5-7%) than Catholic priests or other clerics (4%).[13]

So it is clearly obvious why the largely Zionist Jew owned media focuses on the Church. Zionists hate Catholics and Christ.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Catholic doctrine is contrary to the Christian bible

This is my main point. But my job, as I see it, is only to inform. I have no need to convince anyone to examine or change their beliefs. "Hey man, the bridge is out on that road, just FYI..."

And sure, it's unlikely that "all" Catholic priests rape children, but it's been all too common, so much so that it's now a meme. That indicates a problem with the beliefs of the leaders.

Why no talk about Orthodox Jews and molestation cases, or better yet, why not the wonderful public school system?

Doesn't everyone already know jews rape children? It's less known about teachers, but who could look at that corrupt system and think it's okay?

So it is clearly obvious why the largely Zionist Jew owned media focuses on the Church.

Two groups battling for power and control. God plays no role in their fight.

I think it's worth looking into, but different people have different priorities and interests.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Wait... I thought you said Jesuits created Zionism? The only real evidence for this is among the German Templar groups (not Jesuits) with their failed Haifa colonization project but it had nothing to do with colonizing Palestine with Jews. The modern Zionist project was always a ethnocentric elitist project promoted by Jews for Jews. The only other group I can think of that promoted Zionism, as in sending Jews to Israel or elsewhere, were Nazis, which was haulted in 1938. Scratch that, it wasn't a Nazi idea but a Schacht idea, who was a freemason, who Hitler threw in Dachu in the early 1940's after he became obstructionist because of Nazi liquidation of freemasonry. Book Freemasonry yearned for the building of a Jewish state but this was largely the work of freemasonic Jews themselves.

It's just that to me the Jesuits are simply way more relevant (To me Ultra-Zionist don't even own their own lands or control their own Intelligence).

What? Counterfeit Israel is owned by Jews. It is chartered as Israel llc and is a Jewish ethnostate owned by Jews for Jews. They own their own intelligence too, which is how they were able to orchestrate 9/11 with their Sayanim Zionist Jews in the US.

and since they have the tendency of using the Jews as deflector shields, people should be very skeptical about the anti-Zionist theories and they roam around without moderation.

Jesuits don't control the world, not even Jews do! Catholic Jesuits were anti-Jew supremacism for the same reason why modern peoples' today came to similar conclusions ... that is that rabid Pharisaical rabbinates killed Yeshua and Jews are simply converts of this backwards belief system that is pro-Usury, ethnocentric and egocentric.

If Dennis Fahey and Couglin were 'anti-semitic' (a term that is meaningless even for describing Palestinians as it was cooked up in the 18th century by German intellectual racists) than good, they are criticizing certain anti-Christ Jews who self-identify as pharisee converts to rabbininism. It's probably why many of the Bolsheviks, being militant atheists and self-identifying as ethnic Jews, came from very orthodox Hasidic Talmudic families.

I even have the view that many of them are pushed by the CIA goons themselves, with the Jesuits creating the theories out of thin air...

Like how Catholic Jesuits killed JFK and orchestrated 9/11? Which is not true at all and we have all the evidence proving otherwise in the books I mentioned others read?

But I recently learned that being authoritarian really doesn't work on you guys either way.

What? Hahah.

So I'll be more liberal about this stuff.

Your rhetoric is like a slithering snake.

People forget that I have the biggest arsenal when it comes to things like Holocaust Denial...

Hahaha, yeah, Jews for Hitler also have a big arsenal too. Nobody denies Jewish persecution, not even revisionists. And that's besides the point.

It's just that I rarely show it.

He's locked and loaded people!

The Germans may be able to get rid of the Holocaust industry, or even "Character Assassinate" the Jews, depending on how low the true kill count really is.

What does this have to do with anything?

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Dude how can you be a historical revisionist and not see the huge impact of international Jewry/Zionism on the entire planet? This stinks.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The people behind the Zionist movement, like the Roths had a record of acting under the Vatican which methodically used Jews as fronts for their own crimes for centuries. You aren't dealing with actual religious Zionists, but probably satanists or atheist Jews. The people behind the Mossad like Reinhard worked to expand the technocratic influence all over the Middle East. That's what "Greater Israel" is all about. In a way Israel isn't so different from the US when it comes to the way the Jesuits used it for their own ends through their Intelligence and how they will get rid of it once it no longer serves any use. Even before I knew about the Jesuits, I was very skeptical towards the idea of GI as the endgoal behind everything... Frenzy Holocaust was the first theory I made even.

I already showed you how the Jesuits used the Roths and ethnic, not religious Jews by the thousands and fucking creating the anti-Semitic theories out of thin air as part of their insane plots dude, you tell me.

Not even I claim to know everything, It's a leap of faith. You were the one who told me that why can't they both be bad? I don't trust most people to handle the truth that's all...

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Those poor Jews, faking the holocaust at the behest of Jesuits. Won't someone stand up for the chosen? How did such a smart group of people get used so hard...

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

They may be smart but not really all that smart... With many of them being extreme fascists and proud of it like to see beyond...

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some jews are objectively the smartest people in the world, tied with east asians. you won't even address your pile of shit holocaust theory i see. good day.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So that's the way things are? You know I always thought that one of us would get taken down by a shill team or maybe the Feds or something.

I can't believe I lost you to TMoR's fucking leader. The one who hunted down Aleister, Grace, Flytape and polkadotgirl. Literally the same cunt...

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

/u/d3rr

Rothschilds were not initially even behind the corporate ism of Zionism, not even the Prussian racist Jew, Herzl, could convince them. He had raised his concern with Rothschild's butler but for years they thought he was insane. It took a war and pogroms against Jews due to the usury and corruption of a subset of Jewry to change their minds. Herzl wrote in his pamphlet 'Kike', "the Diaspora Jew (anti-Zionist) is a Kike and an arrow is aimed at his breast."

The people behind the Zionist movement, like the Roths had a record of acting under the Vatican which methodically used Jews as fronts for their own crimes for centuries.

We can say empires, kings and certainly the Vatican at one point in time appeased Internationalist Jews, for loans. But Catholic crimes, even the crusades, were far less terrible than the Judeo-Bolshevik revolution and the ensuing Cheka and gulag system that was erected after their successful ousting of the Czar.

You aren't dealing with actual religious Zionists, but probably satanists or atheist Jews.

Ahistorical Generalization. Sure, the Bolsheviks were militant atheistical Jews, so they said, but their satanism was aimed at Christians. Nevertheless, these revolutionaries almost always came from Talmudic orthodox Jewish families, therefore, understanding the backwards of rabbinism as a religion, as evidenced by the texts of the Zohar, Talmud, lurianic Cabala, and the in-depth study of the revolutionary tactics of Talmudic Jews in Russia and Europe, illustrates their hypocritical doctrine. (See Maurice Pinay for more info on this)

The people behind the Mossad like Reinhard worked to expand the technocratic influence all over the Middle East.

Reinhard was not a Jesuit and he is one person, one former obstructionist Nazi, who sought to kill Hitler, that worked with the OSS and CIA under a sort of house arrest. The same can be said for Habe, and post war Germany, who, curiously, while being a fascist, and fighting for all kinds of countries, committing treason multiple times, was nonetheless given a Herzl medal for being a 'Guardian of Israel.'

That's what "Greater Israel" is all about.

What? No, no it's not. Have you heard of MENA?

In a way Israel isn't so different from the US when it comes to the way the Jesuits used it for their own ends through their Intelligence and how they will get rid of it once it no longer serves any use.

Wrong. Israel is a foreign bankers colony ethnostate that is FOREIGN to US CORP. If anyone is going to get rid of it, it will be because of the behavior of radical ethnocentric Zionist Jews and Likudniks who orchestrated 9/11. Had we went after the teal perps on 9/11, Israel would be wiped off the face of the planet.

I already showed you how the Jesuits used the Roths and ethnic, not religious Jews by the thousands and fucking creating the anti-Semitic theories out of thin air as part of their insane plots dude, you tell me.

No, you didn't. Anti-Jewish sentiment existed for hundreds of years, for the wrong reasons and for correct, critical reasons.