Windsor Tower in Madrid, Spain burned for 20+ hours and never collapsed. No steel frame structure has ever collapsed due to fire, before or after 9/11. On 9/11, 3 collapsed, due to "structural failure from fires".

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[–]package 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

You clearly don't have even a clue what momentum is if you think the collapse would be slower and not essentially a free fall. After each successive failure, the next floor down is now taking the weight of all the floors above it in addition to the added force of their momentum as they accelerate downward. Each floor would fail more quickly than the last up to the point were only a small amount of the falling debris is actually encountering any resistance. And the "external structure" of the building does not exist in isolation; it gets pulled inward as the frame that it's anchored to is crushed downward.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Momentum would continue onward without resistance - but there's a fucking skyscraper in the way (plus wind resistance, jk).

You're clearly buying into the propaganda.

[–]package 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Step by step and simplified for the mentally challenged boomer:

  1. A floor collapses. You now have one floor of material in free fall for ~15 feet.

  2. One floor of material impacts the floor below with a greater load that its own weight, as it was just in free fall for ~15 feet and has gained momentum. This is just enough force to cause this floor to collapse as well. You now have two floors worth of material in free fall for ~15 feet.

  3. Two floors worth of debris + the momentum gained from the ~15 foot free fall impacts the floor below, collapsing it much easier than the previous impact. You now have three floors worth of material in free fall for ~15 feet.

  4. At this point so much debris has begun falling that the next floor collapses before all the debris has event hit it. You now have 4 floors worth of debris falling, with an increasing amount of that debris falling a greater distance and gaining more momentum before it impacts some part of the building below. When it does hit, the structure is no longer able to absorb the force and sections below the debris are violently thrown downward with more speed and momentum than they would have had from simply breaking off.

Now go back to the beginning of this comment and add around 1/8th of the weight of the building to the initial falling mass.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Hey, Jason is a great guy and all, but we're still reviewing his boomer application. Some of the old-timers are taking a hard line on '64.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I wasn't even alive in the 60s.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

You kids. 😁

Not sure if I already said this elsewhere, but that first floor that collapses in his scenario would have quite a few floors above it - Presuming the collapse would begin in the most damaged place.

Haven't studied the videos, and don't remember if it was obvious where the first part to collapse was, in relation to the impacts and fires.

That's aside from steel beams having 45 degree cuts, and other 'oddities'.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And then that peculiar healthy structure below in which you can see explosive detcord and PETN streamlining down the elevator shafts in three floor increments ahead of collapse.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

We know the propaganda.

Do you know the counter-propaganda?

[–]package 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The propaganda of... basic physics? I'm not arguing about the motivations of the attack or who was behind it, just that there's nothing remarkable or out of the ordinary about how it fell.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

just that there's nothing remarkable or out of the ordinary about how it fell.

Because it happens all the time. /s

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

At this point so much debris has begun falling that the next floor collapses before all the debris has event hit it.

I'm dumbfounded how stupid this is. You're free to read what Richard Gage and Dr. Husely have to say and write about the demolition sequence. Something NIST said was inevitable but all indications clearly show explosives were used and AEfor9/11 truth proves their use. In addition, ACARS proves beoynd doubt that UA93 and UA175 were flying well after their alleged crashes hundreds of miles west.

[–]package 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You think multiple floors of debris is going to fall as a flat 2d surface with no vertical separation?

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No, but to streamline down and destroy the core section with clear evidence of explosives... I rest my case. They were demolished, clear as day, with PETN and detcord.

[–]package 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

How exactly do you think the fall should have looked?

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pancake theory is unscholarly. The collapse sequence would slow up due to healthy structure below. Explosives were heard and many were injured in the basement from them. Mossad did 9/11. It was an Israeli job.