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[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I won't convinve you but I believe there is a creator, who isn't a person.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Or his He 1/3 person?

We can't ever know if there was/is a creator. Besides evolution (you can never find the first acorn because it's a slow evolutionary process without hard line definitions), or the idea that we're all part of a simulation, and our limited awareness and capabilities as tiny humans trapped on Earth like ants on island, there is no evidence or reason to believe there was a creator or designer beyond wishful thinking.

Plus there's the Epicurean Paradox: God is either all powerful but doesn't care or he cares but is impotent.

But a "creator" is not even what I was talking about.

Like many terms "God" is so flexible you can mean almost anything and justify almost anything, "under God."

I'm talking about the "moral authority" and the jealous judgemental God in the sky. Does God judge the behaviour of ants too? Or dogs? It's narcissistic to think humans are the only ones gifted with a soul, just as much as Jews think they're superior for magic reasons. This is brainwashing malarkey that I recon may help keep many simple people in line.

If he's so great then he doesn't need half the commandments telling us not to worship other Gods or to respect him. Same with parents. Again, it's more stuff to keep people in line.

It's sad that we need myths to keep us in line instead of Natural Law.

IMO, faith is wishful thinking somewhere between belief and hope, which are all good on this Earthly realm, but are ridiculous in the fictional sky heaven and/or afterlife.

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Hope is fine. There is "amdir" or, looking up. This is the silly thing to look for in life, for it is temporal and fleeting.

Then, there is "estel" or, trust in reality. This is better, because it basically means "what should be, will be" and that is the best reaction to life, IMO. If you should retain your consciousness after death in some afterlife, its because in the natural system we call reality, it should happen, like an apple falling from a tree at the proper time due its approximate weight and stem strength. I mean to say that it probably doesn't happen often at all but that it has occurred, but probably just naturally.

I wish science would study the mind more. Reality is not just physicality, and although illusions and hallucinations are real, there are other functions and spheres of power that we have no knowledge on. It's not always "god" or "aliens" or "magic", it's just something we haven't studied yet, and probably would sound a little benign once scrutinized. Sometimes.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, that's better than even what I was only trying to say.

I often say "hope for the best and prepare for the worst", but it needs to be welded to reality. Some people may think hope for the best could mean an after life in heaven or winning the lottery - but that's not realistic. I'll skip imagining the extremist worst for all our sakes.

If you should retain your consciousness after death in some afterlife, its because in the natural system we call reality,

The entire afterlife myth is so absurd. Are you young again? If you got old and senile are you that way forever? I'm not the same person I was as I've forgotten much and learned much since, with many views the same as well as different. None of it makes sense, none of it is consistent, there's no way to know, and there is no evidence or reason to believe it's even possible beyond wishful thinking.

Jordan Peterson has his pros and cons, but I like when asked if he believes in God, Peterson always says that he lives his life as if God were real.

I judge myself more severely than any all-powerful God ever could. For some reason I can overlook other people's flaws, but upon reflection of my own past it's a cringe horror show, and even though they're usually minor by comparison the difference is that I own them for life.