Radical conspiracism as a tool of the ruling groups. History as the foundation of ethics.

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[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

He won't. I hope he does, but I know he won't.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

I simply don't think he is capable. He has a mental roadblock, a victim complex (legit and/or not), a traumatic past, a deep prejudice, and a deeply researched knowledge vault that has been selectively accrued to favour his biases. That's powerful stuff and impossible to break through unless someone is open to breaking through it.

For example, you are convinced there's a sky God. You are an atheist against all religions and Gods - except you have one more to go. You would have to actually be open to the idea that there is no "higher power".

Similarly, there's no way in fictional Hell that you can convince me the myths of the Bible are real.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

I won't convinve you but I believe there is a creator, who isn't a person.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I also believe in a Creator who isn't a "person" (I'd like to hear what you meany by person, though) and I believe the Creator is life-affirming, but I leave it at that. There isn't enough factual, testable, reliable information concerning the details of said Creator.

IMO, that is why folks like u/JasonCarswell focus on Natural Law instead. It's much more reliable, and will actually help you produce tangible results. The Creator made the Creation. Who cares what the Creator is/believes, we live in Creation, and we have a natural place here as movers and shakers. There are natural systems in place, ever-shifting to fit the growing, evolving Creation. The best "fallen" man can do is understand the Laws, and grow therein.

One of those laws is to never cede authority to anything unless you've met them, touched them, spoken with them, and understood them completely to the point of utter trust. Have you done this with the Jewish god, Yahweh? With Jesus? With the Creator of the Cosmos?

There must come a point where you realize that the Creation can be tested and understood, but anything beyond the Creation is beyond man. Man has been given authority of his own. We must learn how to grow and stabilize our race/planet in reality, or else evil forces will retard our evolution and make us slaves, or worse, destroy our planet before its time (they are doing this right now). This can only be done through understanding Natural Law, science, rather than philosophy, myth, or religion.

Now, those three things help relay ancient understandings of Natural Law, but they are so co-opted, it's not even funny. Anyone who grew up in the Church who becomes red-pilled on the Zionists and Rome, but they still trust the Bible, isn't thinking hard enough about the situation our race has gotten itself into.

It's kind of like mass psychosis. Who are you, or some Muslim, or some Jew, to say that the Creator of the Cosmos has taken human form, and walked amongst us? Or that he gave special tablets to some Hebrews long ago?

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I wouldn't go so far as to say Natural Law is reliable other than it's rational, logical, and provable. It's a general rule to treat your own kind nicely and there are of course lots of creatures and people who terrible things to their own kind. Hell, even the courtship of females has males harming each other for a chance.

And ultimately Natural Law is remixed by a few commandments: do not lie/cheat, steal, or murder.

Further, I've experienced a lot of "psychic states". I don't mean woo. I'm not psychic or any shit like that. I mean I've done many types of drugs - from mild to ego killing, psychedelic to trans-dimensional, coma dope to the k-hole. I've also been a manic depressive long before I learned what that was and that I was one. And I endured the tortures of the damned on big pharma "anti"-depressant poisons. Of course I've also had wildly diverse dream experiences, have an interest in optical /s/Illusions, and understand pareidolia. Plus as a computer animator creating countless TV ads and stuff I was exposed to marketing, spin, and the arts of persuasion - a short step to propaganda, psychological operations, cults, social viruses, religion, etc. And I've observed people.

In short, I know very well how our minds can play tricks on us and exercising skepticism in all things is the most healthy thing we can do for our mental health, IMO.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Being provable makes it more reliable in my eyes. I'd like to hear your thoughts on why you wouldn't call it so?

Skepticism is good, yes, but doubting the reality of your experiences is not. Not saying you necessarily do this, I am unsure, but many people who look into these things will doubt an extra-ordinary experience in the name of comfort. There is such a thing as being too closed minded, but I am certain you already know this from past experience, as do I. In fact, having a closed mind on certain topics will end up prohibiting one from the experiences related to said topics.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Or his He 1/3 person?

We can't ever know if there was/is a creator. Besides evolution (you can never find the first acorn because it's a slow evolutionary process without hard line definitions), or the idea that we're all part of a simulation, and our limited awareness and capabilities as tiny humans trapped on Earth like ants on island, there is no evidence or reason to believe there was a creator or designer beyond wishful thinking.

Plus there's the Epicurean Paradox: God is either all powerful but doesn't care or he cares but is impotent.

But a "creator" is not even what I was talking about.

Like many terms "God" is so flexible you can mean almost anything and justify almost anything, "under God."

I'm talking about the "moral authority" and the jealous judgemental God in the sky. Does God judge the behaviour of ants too? Or dogs? It's narcissistic to think humans are the only ones gifted with a soul, just as much as Jews think they're superior for magic reasons. This is brainwashing malarkey that I recon may help keep many simple people in line.

If he's so great then he doesn't need half the commandments telling us not to worship other Gods or to respect him. Same with parents. Again, it's more stuff to keep people in line.

It's sad that we need myths to keep us in line instead of Natural Law.

IMO, faith is wishful thinking somewhere between belief and hope, which are all good on this Earthly realm, but are ridiculous in the fictional sky heaven and/or afterlife.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Hope is fine. There is "amdir" or, looking up. This is the silly thing to look for in life, for it is temporal and fleeting.

Then, there is "estel" or, trust in reality. This is better, because it basically means "what should be, will be" and that is the best reaction to life, IMO. If you should retain your consciousness after death in some afterlife, its because in the natural system we call reality, it should happen, like an apple falling from a tree at the proper time due its approximate weight and stem strength. I mean to say that it probably doesn't happen often at all but that it has occurred, but probably just naturally.

I wish science would study the mind more. Reality is not just physicality, and although illusions and hallucinations are real, there are other functions and spheres of power that we have no knowledge on. It's not always "god" or "aliens" or "magic", it's just something we haven't studied yet, and probably would sound a little benign once scrutinized. Sometimes.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, that's better than even what I was only trying to say.

I often say "hope for the best and prepare for the worst", but it needs to be welded to reality. Some people may think hope for the best could mean an after life in heaven or winning the lottery - but that's not realistic. I'll skip imagining the extremist worst for all our sakes.

If you should retain your consciousness after death in some afterlife, its because in the natural system we call reality,

The entire afterlife myth is so absurd. Are you young again? If you got old and senile are you that way forever? I'm not the same person I was as I've forgotten much and learned much since, with many views the same as well as different. None of it makes sense, none of it is consistent, there's no way to know, and there is no evidence or reason to believe it's even possible beyond wishful thinking.

Jordan Peterson has his pros and cons, but I like when asked if he believes in God, Peterson always says that he lives his life as if God were real.

I judge myself more severely than any all-powerful God ever could. For some reason I can overlook other people's flaws, but upon reflection of my own past it's a cringe horror show, and even though they're usually minor by comparison the difference is that I own them for life.