Radical conspiracism as a tool of the ruling groups. History as the foundation of ethics.

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[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I pointed out my battle strategy at s/NationalistRevolution.

I also promote Saidit itself and my own subs the whole time... I don't see how the government can be opposed at all without embracing the revolutionary aspect. Even if your movement starts gaining heat, the government will infiltrate it and destroy it. The only way to implement solutions without violence is starting society in the wild.

I suppose I am kind of authoritarian on the Jesuit thing because I'm worried about the level of discourse. Why do you think the CIA goons don't take r/conspiracy itself all that seriously? because the level of discourse is absolute shit over there, despite the fact that It's one of the biggest subs in reddit. How can conspiracists become a menace to the government when they can't even agree on who runs things? My stand is that the Jesuits are the most powerful group in the NWO by a long margin, with them controlling all, or at least the most relevant intelligence agencies. And they are a group of anti-Semites, so getting too obsessed with the Jewish World Domination theories is counterproductive. They are literally Jesuit/CIA propaganda either way, like I documented.

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I don't see how the government can be opposed at all without embracing the revolutionary aspect. Even if your movement starts gaining heat, the government will infiltrate it and destroy it. The only way to implement solutions without violence is starting society in the wild.

Referencing the past I would agree. However, today we have much better communication tools and some of us are aware - and we need to share that awareness. Everyone should learn and be aware of not just the potential to be infiltrated but many of their tricks and tools of manipulation, deception, distraction, and division - among other things. By keeping everyone aware, obviously you must also temper them so they're not too paranoid and calling everyone a traitor. (I also temper myself by not calling you an "enemy" just because we have different ideas about who is at the top - thus I'm able to continue having constructive discussions seeking solutions.)

Further, IMO, we need to develop and promote fundamentals, like manifestos or constitutions or whatever, that lay out the basics clearly that cannot be deviated from. For example, I think FOTPACH is a good start (fair, open, transparent, peaceful, accountable, consistent, honest) for any and all management. Any management that cannot comply is fundamentally flawed and the people should demand better or at the very least be very skeptical.

Starting society in the wild has pros and cons. The old society already has a head start and you'll have to catch up on EVERYTHING. Being isolated makes you an easy target to pick off quietly. It's expensive to get everything out there or to relocate if needed or in emergencies. Of course there are lots of benefits to having freedom. I'm 50/50 for toughing it out in the city or striking out in the wild. In 10 years we shall see who's doing better under the New Normal.

I'm worried about the level of discourse.

IMO, you need not be. Most people may talk, but few do deep research, original research, or any action in real life. I can't even get folks here on SaidIt to do much for our /s/Cassy projects. SaidIt has old code and will not likely be around in 5 or 10 years - and we're not prepared nor are we developing options for community growth. Also, yesterday I spray-painted a 200 foot banner, and today I made two long flags to match (might make 2 more later), for our big rally tomorrow. I'm not expecting to speak to 2 thousand people again like I did on 8/28 five minutes before Chris Sky, but I'll prolly think of something to say before tomorrow noon. Even all of this won't amount to much beyond a publicity stunt with a way to network with wonderful local folks. We're not stopping anything - but we are representing and communicating. And critically, we (online and local) are still slowly developing and evolving plans. These plans have to be resilient, sustainable, FOTPATCH, and decentralized.

How can conspiracists become a menace to the government when they can't even agree on who runs things?

Who cares who's at the top? They all suck: Jesuits, Vatican, Zionists, London Inc, Washington DC, B.I.S., Illumaniti, aliens, etc.

Why do we have to agree? Or menace?

The government is not at the top. Why menace them, with their monopoly on violence? Why not just "menace" and discredit the Jesuits or whoever above them? Or all of "authority"? Build a compelling case for your argument and convince people to join your crusade. It's true that you can't win/please everyone all the time - but in this case it's obvious that whatever you've been doing has limited efficacy, so you have work to do with your crusade's community.

Why not just develop good alternatives and solutions to resist by carving out our own freedom instead of challenging an illegitimate evil force with all the power?

Their illegitimacy is becoming abundantly obvious to the masses with their mandates. Even several mothers with children at the playground yesterday agreed with us (that was the longest fence we could use to temporarily hang our banner, in half). We need to be ready with good information (as you do) to provide to all these new minds with questions - so they don't fall back under the MSM hypnosis. And to squash the infiltrators, disinfo shills, and simpletons.

My stand is that the Jesuits are the most powerful group in the NWO by a long margin, with them controlling all, or at least the most relevant intelligence agencies.

Yes, we get that. But how and why and to what end? We all know about the rise of Israel, their lame excuses, and their professed goals and ambitions and prophecies. I propose to you, that you draft up 3 posts in a series - about the historical rise of Jesuits, why they're doing it, and what their end goals are - but I have one caveat: You write it out to be as clear as possible for newb readers, WITHOUT using any links or citations. Consider these your ultimate benchmark explanations. Obviously you can link information in the comment section when people ask for evidence or specific details - but do NOT write the OP with the understanding that you will link to it later. Feel free to reference this "linkless overview challenge". Also, message me so I can immediately updoot it. It will be good or you'll hear about it from me or others in the comments, but I won't take away my votes.

And they are a group of anti-Semites, so getting too obsessed with the Jewish World Domination theories is counterproductive. They are literally Jesuit/CIA propaganda either way, like I documented.

I still don't know how you define "anti-Semites". There is a lot of intentional bullshit surrounding that term. There are legit folks who hate Jews. Some just despise Zionist actions. Some folks claim that criticizing the State Of Israel makes you anti-Semitic. Of course questioning the Holocaust, Hollywood, politicians, media, banksters, diamonds, secret agencies, military, etc etc etc gets you in hot water too - especially when you point out how many of this tiny global minority are in control.

Also, regardless of how much of a practical foothold (((they))) have, do you deny that there are legitimate "Jewish World Domination" plans out there? There really is no shortage of Jewish folks and Rabbis talking all kinds of shit that proves they have these plans and prophecies. Whether they can actually pull it off is another thing. And of course I know dozens of Jewish people who have nothing to do with any of that, from cousins to ex-lovers to bosses and employees. I know they are just normal people - unlike the ruling class who live by other rules (or without).

Why are these theories (about Jesuits, Zionists, or whoever) counterproductive? You've never explained that to me, nor resistance in a "meaningful way". If I can up my game and have more effect I'm all ears. You'll never affect my actions (ie. recruit me or make me "meaningful") or direction if you can't convince me.

Your documentation is moot. I'm sure it's nice but I won't read it until I have a reason to. I can prove the Moon is hollow or the Earth is flat but it doesn't make it so. You need to explain the overarching how / why / future-goals behind this alleged propaganda / agenda.

Also, explain the difference and overlaps of the Jesuit and CIA, as you stated, and how it's different than other overlapping groups (ie. British Royalty are also MI5, MI6, Germanic, Greek, Masons, banksters, globalists, helped start Israel, etc). I can believe the CIA are the top dogs more than I can the Jesuits - but even still, you have to have them trump the Zionists.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The Jesuits had a record of political subvertion and terrorist acts back when they were still the Knights Templar, but I suppose Loyola had the biggest influence when it comes to the modern Jesuits.

Overall, Catholicism is a religion that has a rejection of the material world in favour of asceticism and worship of Christ, but I think Loyola took this to a whole new level. He had a spiritual experience trying to search for answers by practicing extreme ways of asceticism in a cave in the middle of nowhere and basically went insane and completely destroyed his personality in the process.

I believe that's the origin of their policiy of radical supernaturalism. They associate the supernatural with Christ himself and see the material world as a corruption that shouldn't exist. They also hate the Jews and nationalists as a whole for being a materialist group.

One of their first crimes and foreshadowing of their insane ideas was the Jesuit Communist Empire in Latin America, which lasted over a hundred years and was the sign of trying to force their deranged monkery. But even that is not enough, they want a completely perfect communism.

The most relevant figures behind the globalist movement were Charles Darwin, Herbert Spencer, Andrew Carnegie, Cecil Rhodes, the Huxley family and H.G Wells and their Jesuit mentor Teilhard.

Teilhard, besides, being extremely influential in the modern capitalist societies, thought about the Omega Point, which is the perfect communism that the Jesuits want.

I already showed how everyone involved in the Corona crisis is related to the Jesuits and how the Jesuits themselves are a group of extreme anti-Semites. I'm not saying that there aren't evil Jews involved in the whole mess but there's still no point indulging so much in the Jewish World Domination plan thing when the Jesuits literally created those conspiracy theories. They own the lands of Israel so there's no danger of the Jews getting the holy land thing either. Believing that you can somehow oppose the CIA from an intellectual point of view by spreading CIA propaganda is just plain dumbassery. By knowing who the enemy is and how influential they are, you can start thinking about strategies to beat them. I mean again, I'm pretty sure the Jesuits downright control all the most relevant intelligence agencies in the world simultaneously and not only their control over the banking system is greater than the Roths, but they actually control the Rothschilds themselves either way. They simply have no rival group. Teilhard's influence in the capitalist societies and the Omega Point are also very well documented facts.

I think I already covered all the other relevant aspects behind the NWO and explained the reasons behind my policies in my sub.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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I don't see how the government can be opposed at all without embracing the revolutionary aspect. Even if your movement starts gaining heat, the government will infiltrate it and destroy it. The only way to implement solutions without violence is starting society in the wild.

There's no such thing as a government. The US is a corporation centered in the District of Columbia. Your free to turn towards the woods, relinquish tacit contracts with the state and federal corporation and live self-sufficiently. What you want is a revolution, which is exactly what GRU and Mossad want in the US, which is being asset stripped as we speak by for-profit private corporations and think tanks.

Referencing the past I would agree. However, today we have much better communication tools and some of us are aware - and we need to share that awareness. Everyone should learn and be aware of not just the potential to be infiltrated but many of their tricks and tools of manipulation, deception, distraction, and division - among other things. By keeping everyone aware, obviously you must also temper them so they're not too paranoid and calling everyone a traitor. (I also temper myself by not calling you an "enemy" just because we have different ideas about who is at the top - thus I'm able to continue having constructive discussions seeking solutions.)

Agreed.

Further, IMO, we need to develop and promote fundamentals, like manifestos or constitutions or whatever, that lay out the basics clearly that cannot be deviated from. For example, I think FOTPACH is a good start (fair, open, transparent, peaceful, accountable, consistent, honest) for any and all management. Any management that cannot comply is fundamentally flawed and the people should demand better or at the very least be very skeptical.

How did men take control of the US and use their legalese to impose their will on others. George Washington exclaimed; "citizens are but Actors on a the most contingent Theatre." Washington and his comrades cared only about protecting THEIR assets and using think tanks and tribal in group thinking to do it. The Cincinnati society is an example of such. This tribalism is seen clearly with Zionist Jews and their think tanks who have basically asset stripped the US.

Starting society in the wild has pros and cons. The old society already has a head start and you'll have to catch up on EVERYTHING. Being isolated makes you an easy target to pick off quietly. It's expensive to get everything out there or to relocate if needed or in emergencies. Of course there are lots of benefits to having freedom. I'm 50/50 for toughing it out in the city or striking out in the wild. In 10 years we shall see who's doing better under the New Normal.

It won't have any pros in America. Bolsheviks want to destroy America, hence critical race theory in the US military. The goal is to destroy the US from within, eventually, when the multipolar world emerges and Israel can without consequence, make an alliance with China and Russia.

I'm worried about the level of discourse.

Because 'anti-Semitism,' obviously. Right?

How can conspiracists become a menace to the government when they can't even agree on who runs things?

Who cares who's at the top? They all suck: Jesuits, Vatican, Zionists, London Inc, Washington DC, B.I.S., Illumaniti, aliens, etc.

Corporations and billionaires are truly the rulers and they plan to use human capital in the technocracy age. Which is a Ronald Cohen idea. See Alice Mcdowell's wrenchinthegears blog or Elle Provocateurs twitter

The government is not at the top. Why menace them, with their monopoly on violence? Why not just "menace" and discredit the Jesuits or whoever above them? Or all of "authority"? Build a compelling case for your argument and convince people to join your crusade. It's true that you can't win/please everyone all the time - but in this case it's obvious that whatever you've been doing has limited efficacy, so you have work to do with your crusade's community.

Because Jesuits don't exist anymore.

Why not just develop good alternatives and solutions to resist by carving out our own freedom instead of challenging an illegitimate evil force with all the power?

That sounds better! Remember, citizenship is voluntary. Our systems run on faith. That's it. If everyone today said "I quit," and the middle and lower classes stopped paying their taxes, just wait and see how the house of cards falls. This sort of approach could set us back into a wild stage but more likely it will allow for more decentralized local projects to take hold—ridded of corporate capture.

My stand is that the Jesuits are the most powerful group in the NWO by a long margin, with them controlling all, or at least the most relevant intelligence agencies.

They're not.

Yes, we get that. But how and why and to what end? We all know about the rise of Israel, their lame excuses, and their professed goals and ambitions and prophecies.

If Jesuits didn't like Zionists and Jews, if they exposed Talmudic supremacy and Jewish tribalism why would they 'own Israel' and allow Zionist Jews to kill Palestinian Christians or have the Israel government maintain Jewish majority rule and make spreading the gospel illegal, when Jesuits spread the gospel throughout the world? Sounds like today's Jesuits are anything but Jesuits. Sounds like they're marrano Jews.

I propose to you, that you draft up 3 posts in a series - about the historical rise of Jesuits, why they're doing it, and what their end goals are - but I have one caveat: You write it out to be as clear as possible for newb readers, WITHOUT using any links or citations. Consider these your ultimate benchmark explanations. Obviously you can link information in the comment section when people ask for evidence or specific details - but do NOT write the OP with the understanding that you will link to it later. Feel free to reference this "linkless overview challenge". Also, message me so I can immediately updoot it. It will be good or you'll hear about it from me or others in the comments, but I won't take away my votes.

Sounds interesting. I'll advise hibs to read Christopher Hollis's History of the Jesuits book.

And they are a group of anti-Semites, so getting too obsessed with the Jewish World Domination theories is counterproductive. They are literally Jesuit/CIA propaganda either way, like I documented.