Thanks for starting to explain.

Jews are a very materialist and pro-nationalist group,

This is a broad stereotype that may apply to many, but certainly doesn't cover all of them. Putting that aside, this opinion is irrelevant.

the Jesuits are radical supernaturalists that see the material world as a corruption that shouldn't exist.

All religious groups are into woo and sin. Again, irrelevant.

Since the Jews are such a unified and naturalist group, the Jesuits hate them.

Now we're getting somewhere, but it's still unclear.

I understand unified - and Zionists, as well as all media/governments, are pretty good at dividing people.

What do you mean by naturalist? As extreme examples, Sabbateans think perversions are natural, authoritarians think a police state is natural, and "eco-terrorists" think saving nature is natural. You also said "supernaturalists" which I assumed meant believing in God, myth, and woo. I suppose non-super naturalism is a synonym for materialism.

A lot of the Jews that always get sold out to us as Ultra-Zionist lunatics are actually traitors towards their own people like the Rothschilds or the Bolsheviks for example,

All of the ruling class are traitors to their own peoples. Most anti-Zionists will tell you that they are not good Christians or Jews or whatever and they use the masses of their kind as human shields. This is not new.

the Jesuits have their own different set of objectives working with the different Catholic groups in the Vatican and the CIA.

I've already assumed that. What are these different objectives? How are they different? Why does it make any difference to us?

Most folks who shit on Zionist warmongers also shit on the Vatican pedos - among both of their many other crimes.

It seems you're arguing that one group is over the other group and it matters. Most folks here think Zionists are slightly higher but really it doesn't matter. It still seems moot.

I still don't see any clear distinction worth all this fuss.

So by following most Ultra-Zionist world domination conspiracy theories, most conspiracists aren't opposing the government in any meaningful way, they even help it spread disinfo.

Zionists/Globalists are more powerful than governments and their puppets. It doesn't matter if your resisting locally, regionally, nationally, or globally as long as you're punching up. Resisting against your local justice system won't solve your national government corruption or globalist eugenics agendas but it must be done all the same at all levels.

"Meaningful way" is subjective. Everyone has their own activism, meaning, purpose, and fulfillment. Some prefer to be anonymous, some not. Some talk and some act. Some throw bombs and some do peaceful rallies. Some are into woo and some just analyze power. Some do politics and some conspiracy. Some try to be autodidacts in all realms.

Give me 3 examples, no more, no less, of how it went wrong and how it would have been better (more meaningful) opposing government if we were to recognize that Jesuits are over Zionists.

Like it or not, disinfo is part of the game and is the hand we're dealt. All we can do is our best to counter it with better info, and hopefully keep the fires of rebellion alive while developing new concepts and tools to share the resistance.

I still don't see any clear distinction worth all this fuss.

So you want to resist in meaningful ways and avoid spreading disinfo.

Regardless of the Jesuit/Zionist debate, we see problems and propaganda all around. There's no end to them. We need alternatives and solutions. What do you propose? What are you willing to do? Talk is one thing, and sharing information is important - but taking action can be more important (depending on the scenario).

I can't make it anymore clear than that.

It's a start. You can clarify, if you want to authentically respond to this. If you beat about the issues or don't answer directly folks will see it, especially if I call it out.

(Feel free to copypasta or respond to this comment in a new post if you like.)