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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Dude, Jesuits, Zionists, they are the same. It doesn't matter if you think the Vatican is trying to grow, or if Israel is trying to grow. Obviously these are occultic fucks who don't care about religion, culture, or humans. That is all we need to know. They lie about their personal beliefs. You think these groups are anti-each other. They are not. They work hand-in-hand to manipulate those who follow them. SIMPLE.

Jews are involved, Jesuits are involved, Chinese communists are involved, American Christian Zionists are involved. Who gives a fuck if the Vatican is running the show or Israel? It's a charade, a ploy. These are their power-centers, if you got rid of one, they would pop up somewhere else.

It is a Hydra. Why waste any time delving into the dirty fangs and scales of one head? Look for the body, and then you'll understand u/JasonCarswell a bit better, I think.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

They aren't the same. Jesuits are a certain philosophical group with certain goals and the Jews have completely different objectives. If you don't realize this, you will be manipulated.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

You believe their lies. You and I only know their symbols and actions edit: Not their personal beliefs. They use the same symbols, and their actions are inextricably tied together. I will not believe one of them to explain to me their views.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

There you go. You are falling for the extreme conspiracism that I mentioned, thinking that you can't judge history regardless of your effort. And you guys think the CIA goons don't have influence on you...

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Extreme conspiracism is flat-earth, or the Queen is a lizard-person. Or, perhaps, what you are doing, and others on this site. In your world, there are all these powerful cults/cabals/clubs who go up against each other. In the real world, there is the cult that swallows all cults, and then authoritarians who know about the cult and utilizes its tricks to get an upper hand. Ultimately, they are the enemy.

But in your world, only the club or cult you choose to focus on is the enemy. You leave out all the allies of the jesuits, and pretend that they are somehow not the same. If their philosophies are different, I'd want to hear them debate it. Oh, no, I'll only ever find them talking about it in some controlled way. I won't believe chronic liars to be honest about their own beliefs.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I'm tired of conspiracy theorists like HibikiBlack and EliFromTheBook, among others, who think they have the secret insights and knowledge that we don't - and refuse to share or explain it, much less present it rationally. I know a crazy lady near me who thinks she's the secret Queen of Canada, among other woo stuff (NOT joking). Her heart is good and she delivers /s/Druthers papers, but I wonder if she makes a bad impression for our community.

I won't miss pointless debate when I'm making videos.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

but I wonder if she makes a bad impression for our community.

And, I'm descended from Jesus, Guardian of the Holy Grail. Did I never tell you? /s

Yeah, she's probably turning some people away from dissident/conspiracy information.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, she's probably turning some people away from dissident/conspiracy information.

She also claims to have rare inside knowledge above other skeptics (so tired of that shtick). She really likes to talk, but only with people she trusts, allegedly. I haven't seen her interact with others, so I don't know how much of her confidential crazy talk gets out. She delivers papers in Windsor, so that's good. Her friends must know her well enough. And she's old and feeble so her mobility is limited. She's a Luddite so she's "contained". Apparently she was abducted when younger. I think that was true, but the real question is whether it was by villains or doctors or villainous doctors. She may have been MK Ultraed for all we know.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You haven't explained anything.

Explain clearly and win us over. We're really willing to be convinced, if you can. But you haven't even tried.

Stop with the insults and links and lay out their grand plan clearly in a logical convincing manner. (Save the links and details for if/when we actually ask for them.) Until you do this you are wasting all of our time and energy.