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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (22 children)

You dodged my question.

What are you guys going to do once the Jews and the Syrians kill each other then?

Israelis have been killing Syrians and taking their country for decades. For oil in the Golan Heights. I fail to see your point.

I respect any damage that Jesuits have done too, that's why we need to see where and how they interface with the Zionists and the NWO at large.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

The fact that Jews can be dicts doesn't mean they are out to conquer the world. And I call them out on their actions the whole time.

[–]Azne🛡️ 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (18 children)

Please don’t let this conversation end. I’m finding it very interesting from the sideline honestly, as someone who’s open-minded but also has the same views and questions as those you’re debating/sharing a discussion with.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

I always bring up the Jesuits systematically, but a lot of users aren't confortable with my findings. Keep in mind that when I was new to their theories, despite leaning more towards the Jesuits being the strongest group, I was still open minded towards the idea of being proven wrong. But even back then Magnora greatly respected my point of view about Greater Israel not being the end goal of the NWO anymore... A lot of the times Saidit has been attacked, it involves the shills astroturfing for the most hardcore anti-Semitic theories. At this point I'm sure the end goal of the NWO is the Jesuit technocracy, the Omega Point and the Third Age of Joachim. That's because a lot of the most important figures behind the Globalist and capitalist movement were related to the Jesuit Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, who created "Darwinian-Capitalism" and was extremely influential in the globalist movement itself. The ruling groups ideas of depopulation come from him.

Also, the CIA is a Catholic and Jesuit controlled organization. Here are my arguments:

The fact that they have been controlling the Vatican for hundreds of years needs to be made clear.

Both Hitler and Himmler admitted the influence the Jesuits had on the ideals of the national socialists... and it was the Vatican that allowed many of them to escape, out of which many of them helped in the creation of the CIA and were part of many of its operations.

The founding father of the CIA, William J. Donovan was granted the Grand Cross of the Order of St. Sylvester. Only like a hundred men have been given this award... and it is granted by the pope himself because of some service to the Vatican.

The CIA's director of intelligence Allen Dulles and the Jesuit priest Avery Dulles were blood related. Allen was also the CIA director that was in power for the longest time.

Like Donovan, the CIA's director John A. McCone was given the Grand Cross of the Order of St. Sylvester because of his service to the Vatican. John was also involved in the creation of the CIA itself.

Finally, the CIA itself is a Catholic organization, like its nickname implies. Which Catholics themselves openly boost about through their media.

Doctor Stephen D. Mumford, wrote in American democracy & the Vatican: Population Growth & national security, pg 172:

"The CIA serves as an agency through which secret assistance to the Holy Mother Roman Catholic Church can be provided by secret American society members acting as her defenders.

For creating the Office of Strategic Services [OSS], the wartime predecessor to the CIA, and this special arrangement with the Vatican, General William (Wild Bill) Donovan was decorated in July 1944 by Pope Pius XII with the Grand Cross of the Order of Saint Sylvester, the oldest and most prestigious of papal knighthoods. This award has been given to only one hundred other men in history, who by feat of arms or writing or outstanding deeds have spread the faith and have safeguarded and championed the Roman Catholic Church.

Donovan did more to safeguard and champion the Roman Catholic Church than any other American, and he was rewarded for his services with the highest Roman Catholic award ever received by an American. No doubt, thousands of others have striven with their deeds for similar recognition."

Former CIA officer E. Howard Hunt said in an interview in the documentary "A Coup Made in America" which aired on Canadian television series Turning Points of History in 1998, speaking on his role in the coup d’état in Guatemala in 1954 that:

“We had gotten the okay from Cardinal Spellman to go ahead with this… and I wouldn't presume to trace the lines of authority within the Catholic Church… how they get their information they deal with… We've always said in an admiring way that the Jesuits form the greatest intelligence service in the world and always have."

The Jesuits are a group of radical supernaturalists, they hate the Jews for their materialism and nationalism and have been behind many movements in order to attack them in the past. They created the "Jewish plan for world domination" theories:

The black pope Ledochowski conspired to block the policies of Pope Pius XI seeking to condemn anti-Semitism in Europe.

Jesuit Pietro Tacchi Venturi played a vital role in Italian fascism and Mussolini's anti-Semitic policies.

Leo H. Lehmann mentioned that the Jesuits were behind the creation of the Protocols of the elders of Zion.

The Jesuits were responsible for the creation of the anti-Semitic myths, which started with their demonization of the Jews and the Rothschilds in their magazine La Civilita Cattolica as part of a worldwide Jewish conspiracy.

Also like I showed before, the Rothschilds themselves don't own the Vatican, unlike what a lot of people would have you believe that they are ultra-nationalist Jews, they actually helped the Vatican spread the anti-Semitic stories. They are one of the worst traitors towards their own people.

This is why I find the people who still hold on to the old Greater Israel narratives to be laughable, I've made tons of research on my own over the years but instead of being open minded about it they keep holding up to their pleasing sound-bytes of anti-Semitism, which by the way, tends to get pushed over here by Catholic groups all the time. The most hardcore anti-Semitic users over here are confessed supernaturalist Catholics who have admitted their hatred towards the flesh and the need to give up on it in order to become spirits over here at Saidit. Does anyone actually remember that the CIA is a Catholic organization and that the Jesuits are anti-Semites? I wouldn't bother people opposing me if they actually properly investigated these events, but this usually isn't the case and they simply don't want to change their views.

I mentioned that the Jesuits were behind the biggest conflicts in Latin America. Here is my research about it, including the thing about the black pope and my hometown.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

a lot of users aren't confortable with my findings.

It's not about comfort. Much of the Jesuit stuff is fascinating.

The problem is how you ignore, deflect, or spin the Zionist stuff, thus you often paint a Jesuit narrative that seems misleading, inauthentically disproportionate in the face of abundant evidence, and potentially misinfo or disinfo - by choice or by ignorance.

In short, you offer another conflicting counter-narrative rather than supplemental threads that weave into the dominant truth-seeking counter-narrative opposing the "official" narrative which we all agree is bunk.

As /u/d3rr pointed out, it doesn't have to be either-or, when it seems obvious all these powerful groups overlap and collaborate.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (14 children)

The Jesuits hate Jews. They want you to chase them all day long instead of focusing your time doing actual CIA Counter-Intelligence work. I don't have a problem with you guys calling out the Jews when they do a fuck up, I do so myself all the time. But It's hardly fair to blame them for the world domination plot.

The Jesuits literally used the term "world domination" in their writtings in La Civiltà Cattolica when talking about the Jews LMAO, and you guys think you are actually smarter than the CIA goons.

Again, I've been researching them for years and I know who the Jezzies are, you guys are simply falling for radical conspiracism thinking you are playing smart neutral, but you really aren't and are right where the CIA goons want you to be.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

But It's hardly fair to blame them for the world domination plot.

You've got major blinders on. With this many people telling you so, perhaps you might reconsider looking at the evidence again.

The Jews and globalist Zionists also use similar "world domination" phrases and terminology, throughout history up to today. This is not new, nor exclusive to these or other groups, powerful or not.

you guys think you are actually smarter than the CIA goons

No one said that. Stay focused.

simply falling for radical conspiracism

You aren't? Those years obsessing on this topic may be why you're so biased and blinded.

thinking you are playing smart neutral, but you really aren't and are right where the CIA goons want you to be.

Where is that?

I don't know who is at the top other than those with power. The B.I.S. seems to be the very top to me, but I don't care about the specifics of whether it's Zionists or Jesuits or Masons or Illuminati or BigFoot. I just know we all need to punch upwards.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

There were no Jewish "World Domination" plot myths until the Jesuits started with their writtings. But you can't be sure of that or anything at all when you hold on to radical conspiracism. It doesn't actually make you smarter, it is a very anti-intellectual perspective.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

I'm pretty sure you're full of shit here, perhaps using literal "World Domination" in quotes to actually avoid discussing the enslavement of the goyim, etc etc etc. Either that or somehow you're trying to tell me that Jesuits fabricated all that history and the words in the Talmud, etc etc etc.

I am as "radical" as any surfer/hippie/voluntarist, but I'm not an extremist kind of radical who's for corruption, mass murder, and global domination.

There's nothing radical about it when the abundance of evidence piles high with endless examples. There are "normal" people (and Jews), and then there are radical extremists of all races and faiths - including some Jews.

/u/Jesus would know better how to provide you the evidence, if you are actually arguing in good faith and are willing to look at the MOUNTAINOUS WEALTH OF EVIDENCE that Zionists are hell bent on global dominance, in league with or without the Jesuits.

It doesn't actually make you smarter, it is a very anti-intellectual perspective.

Proof?

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

They are mostly peaceful people. Yes, the distorted if you "aren't part of us you are against us" tribalism, the getting rid of the goyim is good, "no one can criticize us" mentality has been part of them for a long time. But rather see them for their good side rather than the bad. There are Jews that are so open minded that wouldn't mind admitting defeat if I could empirically proof that the Holocaust was greatly exaggerated and likewise, I wouldn't mind being proven wrong either.

Anyway, you might not believe me but I'm actually worried about you guys and trying to get you to see the big picture. We have to setup some kind of revolutionary movement eventually because it won't matter how red pilled we get, it won't stop the Vatican by itself. You guys aren't actually that far away from calling genocide against the Jews over here... I remember that back on my days of military training, I was taught by the National Socialists to see the Jews as a race of sorts with downright terrible qualities, but even as my worst self, I never actually thought about harming the Jews myself and watching you guys spew racist rethoric like this is disturbing. Also, keep in mind that Jesus has talked about his dislike for the National Socialists, sure as hell doesn't like me for being related to them and is one of the Catholic dudes I was talking about.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Since the modern 'Jesuits' are a synagogue of Satan and today's Jesuits are crypto-Jews who support the Chabadnik noahide agenda, it is safe to say that this is a supremacist Jewish agenda.

radical conspiracism. It doesn't actually make you smarter, it is a very anti-intellectual perspective.

You are sounding more and more like a Zionist.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Who did 9/11? Jesuits? You told me awhile back that the neocons were Jesuits. This is simply absurd.

radical conspiracism

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're merely posting RomeRules posts stuck 70 years in the past. Most of these people are not Catholics but Masons. Tens of thousands of Masons and crypto-Jews subverted the church, as both Judeo-masonry is against Catholicism. They won. The CIA is now full of Zionist Jews, Masons and Opus Judei agents. If JFK and RFK had won, they'd have prevented Jewish Zionism from ever taking root.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

doesn't mean they are out to conquer the world.

Except when they openly claim that's their goal and the goyim will be enslaved.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You also wrote this same line to me. There are supremacist Jews that do want to conquer the world and call non-Jews subhuman animals.