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[–]StillLessons 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

But it concerns me that we have to shut down the economy until vaccination rates are sufficient for herd immunity.

False logic. Herd immunity will occur whether you vaccinate or not. This has been the lie since the beginning: "If we don't control this bug, it's going to wipe out humanity!" That was never true. This virus - though human designed - still behaved like most pathogens in that its effects were serious in those whose systems were not sufficiently strong to sustain an incremental addition to stress upon them, in other words, the elderly and the sick. Like all viruses, it also has some rare cases where it causes long-term side effects. Influenza does that, too, if you look it up.

But you and your ilk are incapable of recognizing that the human species has dealt with many many many viruses like this in our history, and that within a year or two, allowing the vast majority of people with healthy innate immunity (using the term in its technical sense) to address this bug while protecting the elderly and the sick, this would have been like all the pandemics before it, in the rearview mirror. Covid is endemic to our species now, just like influenza. It has been ever since it left the lab and it was always going to be so, no matter what we did. Until we start learning to live with it rather than wasting untold energy trying to "eradicate" what was never possible to eradicate, we are spitting in the wind.

Vaccination rates will never change the fundamental point I am making here. You will never vaccinate enough for eradication. What level are you after, then?

The particularly criminal part of what you and those like you are selling is that with the fraudulent HCQ study in the Lancet (since retracted), you set in motion a process to actively prevent relatively low-impact treatments of covid patients which many clinicians reported excellent curative results with. Patients died for this.

You then proceed to attempt re-definition of herd immunity to suggest (you are repeating this suggestion here) that it is entirely about vaccination. That is quite simply horseshit. Immunity comes from processes within the human organism which we do not control. Vaccination is just a way to give that human system a preview of what it should be aware is coming. But you are insane. You are now telling people who have had the virus they must get vaccinated. There is absolutely zero immunological logic in this mandate. Post-covid patients' immune systems already recognize the virus from complete exposure. The idea of benefit from your addition of more of a single component of a virus into the system when recovered people have already coded the entire virus (all its components) into their immunological response is patently absurd.

Lie after lie after lie, posing as "science".

You have taken a virus which added a marginal (and by nature temporary, if it had been left alone other than the elderly and the sick) bump in mortality, and you have created a society killing monster. The monster has never been the virus, which is not nearly so exotic as you have attempted to convince people that it is; the monster from day 0 (when Fauci decided we needed to create the damn thing to begin with) has been the human manipulation of the virus itself and then the continuation of that manipulation with the insane society-destructive response you and your friends are responsible for.

Your concern is entirely your own creation.

[–]PostmasterGeneral 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well said.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

False logic. Herd immunity will occur whether you vaccinate or not.

Not necessarily. It's perfectly possible that CoVID-19 becomes endemic.

This has been the lie since the beginning: "If we don't control this bug, it's going to wipe out humanity!"

I'm not aware of that lie. Who's been telling that lie?

This virus - though human designed -

Human designed? Designed to do what?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

"I'm not aware of that lie. Who's been telling that lie?"

Literally every major institution and corporation that's tied to the corrupt financial centers of the world, which are most of them.

"Human designed? Designed to do what?"

To frighten bootlickers and stay at home mothers, and make elderly folks die at a quicker rate than what's been normal for the past few generations. It's designed to take out old traditionalists, and create a situation where they can further erode our rights and freedoms under the guise of safety.

You are an amateur.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

To frighten bootlickers and stay at home mothers, and make elderly folks die at a quicker rate than what's been normal for the past few generations. It's designed to take out old traditionalists, and create a situation where they can further erode our rights and freedoms under the guise of safety.

Okay, that's a broad answer.

Lets start with the first point.

What is the benefit of frightening bootlickers?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Are you having trouble reading? I said it right after my snarky remark. To create a situation where they can further erode our rights and freedoms away under the guise of safety.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

To create a situation where they can further erode our rights and freedoms away under the guise of safety.

How does frightened bootlickers create that situation, do you claim?

While I'm trying to understand what your position is, why don't you also let me which "humans" you claim "designed" the virus?

And what what aspects of the virus were decided upon during this "design"?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Dude, you barely take the time to read your own comments before you respond.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So you can present no justification at all for someone wanting to frighten bootlickers, you can't say who has designed the virus, and you don't have anything that the virus does due to this design?