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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (41 children)

"It's otherwise like reading the Silmarillion."

Which isn't that hard to do.

[–]Froglich 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (40 children)

"It's otherwise like reading the Silmarillion."

Which isn't that hard to do.

Socks is just typing the lines he's given.

A paux-lefty who pretends to be pro-Palestine rights, while also advocating for eliminating the rights of others (everywhere) via medical martial law.

He's a petty stooge.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (39 children)

There's no need for the attacks. And none of this is true. If you have an argument for me, write to me directly, rather than type this cowardice nonsense to someone else. Man up.

[–]Froglich 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (38 children)

There's no need for the attacks. And none of this is true.

Anyone who glances at your comment history will easily conclude you're a shill.

Allow me to demonstrate :

Sucks most recent comment.

https://saidit.net/s/Coronavirus/comments/829i/shocker_lisbon_court_rules_that_only_09_of/tze2

What this disinformation website is not offering is any information about the lawsuit for which the document was written. If you download and read the document (in Portuguese), you'll see that the 152 deaths were discovered in a very limited study of autopsy reports. These autopsies are not the primary means by which COVID19 deaths are calculated. Moreover, 99% of autopsies do not determine the cause of death as a virus or COVID19 or other endemics or pandemics. What they determine is water in the lungs and other physical developments that caused the death.

So, you're (correctly) indicating that people die of pneumonia, and indirectly admitting nobody dies from Covid?

The WHO admits the Covid tests are bogus, so the Covid tests are meaningless.

So, all of the pneumonia deaths are Covid, except for the blunt trauma Covid deaths, cancer-Covid, etc.

Even the CDC admits only 6% of their alleged Covid deaths were legit; which is still exaggerated.
This admission is truly shocking, as the CDC literally admits that they are manufacturing and spreading disinformation.
Don't take my word for it. Search for, "6% CDC".

Also, ignore the first search result. Guaranteed to be a "fact checker" Gates-paid advert.

So, in summary it's evident to me that you're here to "debunk" the facts, and push the narrative of the CDC which admits to lying about the basic facts of 94% of all reported deaths.

There's no need for the attacks. And none of this is true.

The attacks are justified. You're a shill for the NWO.

I hope you make it to 2030 and beyond, so you can live to see the enslavement of those you love.

I'm sure the slaver blood-money they threw at you will be long gone by then.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (37 children)

Anyone who glances at your comment history will easily conclude you're a shill.

Only if they're incredibly stupid (Those aren't shill posts)

The attacks are justified. You're a shill for the NWO.

No - they were not. Have a look at the pyramid of debate and Saidit's rules.

It's apparent that you disagree with the 99% of the world who agree with facts and science. Those people aren't shills.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (22 children)

You are not on the side of the 99%. Every single percent is different from the next, except on general terms. And some of them are shills. Why don't you respond to u/Froglich and clearly debate his reasons and evidence, rather than to make some lame attempt at calling in the pyramid.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Furthermore, "shill" is NOT name-calling. It's a term.

Next thing you won't be able to say when someone is "deceiving to promote the authoritarian agenda, ignorantly or not, for money or not" which is my definition of "shill".

I still have to finish drafting up my "Shills, Semantics, Pejoratives, Debates, Discussions, and Ethics in Social Media Moderating" post, but other things are a little more pressing.

cc /u/Froglich, /u/d3rr

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

For both of you: why would anyone respond to attacks? Fuck everything about that. And - fuck no - telling people to avoid vaccines certainly does not support the 99%. That's bloody insane.

[–]Froglich 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

For both of you: why would anyone respond to attacks?

Please allow me to respond to your disgusting hypocrisy with your own comment.

If you have an argument for me, write to me directly, rather than type this cowardice nonsense to someone else. Man up.

Then you inexplicably cry "mod abuse" below, as if.
If you think I'd ban you, then you're probably delusional.
I'm an extreme free speech advocate. Literally the opposite, of an abusive mod.

I'm a pragmatist, and I suspect you're probably donating to the site, which is great.
That's a meaningfully contribution to Saidit, and I have no intention of doing anything harmful to the site.

There are plenty of shills here who don't donate. So, you have a leg up on them in that respect.

Conversely, these shills seldom disgrace themselves by crying wolf about "mod abuse".

Nobody has to tell them to:

Man up.

I'm conclusion, my strong recommendation to you is to take your own advice.

If you have an argument for me, write to me directly, rather than type this cowardice nonsense to someone else. Man up.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Again - your posts included insults/attacks, so I have absolutely no interest in discussing anything with you. It's that simple.

[–]Froglich 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

You're a cowardly shill, and your arguments have been demolished.

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

He called you a party stooge, which is low teir but his opinion. His subsequent comments were well argued.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I don't tell people to avoid vaccines, I tell them to do as they will, because I support liberty.

I try to respond to active users here, be they trolls or no. You need to toughen up, especially if you want to be the establishment mouthpiece here

[–]Froglich 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

I couldn't help but notice you've avoided contesting any of the hard facts that pointed out.

CDC admitted that only 6% of documented Covid deaths were remotely legit.

  • Sucks, it would appear the foundation of your position is made of sand.
    Feel free to provide feedback.
    Perhaps you feel the CDC may be lying?

No doubt the remaining 6% was actually seasonal influenza, and as you pointed out nobody actually dies from the flu (aka Covid).
They die from pneumonia.

Moving on, the definition of "pandemic" was redefined, and the mass fatality rate requirements were eliminated.

So, every flu season on record was a similarly deadly event. So much so, that 2020 was only the 12th most deadly year since 2000 (12th place/20, 40%).
The 2020 pandemic was in the lower 50 percentile.
A below average death rate year. *Safer than most (60%).

Does this make sense, sucks?
I suspect you find reality confusing. Try to think. Think sucks, think.

Either way, I'm sure you'll quickly get paid to forget this info.

It's apparent that you disagree with the 99% of the world who agree with facts and science.

99%, huh? Do you have a source for that?

Those people aren't shills.

Agreed.
They're victims of disinformation from disingenuous vipers like yourself...

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The particularly weird thing about this C-19 flu is the dry lung thing that suddenly goes bad, unlike normal wet pneumonia.

Moving on, the definition of "pandemic" was redefined, and the mass fatality rate requirements were eliminated.

So, every flu season on record was a similarly deadly event. So much so, that 2020 was only the 12th most deadly year since 2000 (12th place/20, 40%).

The 2020 pandemic was in the lower 50 percentile.

A below average death rate year. *Safer than most (60%).

Got sources handy for those? I'd like to share with my local groups on FB.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Why would anyone respond to attacks? Are you insane?

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Socks, he didn't attack you in the post above. I think the best thing to do would be to counter his arguments.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Saidit's double standards:

Abuse and attack anyone here who isn't in agreement with the alt right, and expect them to respond to comments that contain those attacks. Mods support this (as I've found; if however I respond with a negative comment, mods contact me with their concerns; mod abuse will now include these double standards, and those who left Reddit because of mod abuse there, will also consider leaving Saidit, because of mod abuse here, /u/d3rr). Just as the rape victim shouldn't have to respect the rapist, I won't respect the attackers here.

It is interesting to me that you do not like the abuses of Israel and the US Israel lobby, but you seem to value comments by abusers here. I hope you will think about this, Jesus.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

You are still active at Reddit. You aren't here because you were banned from Reddit.

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Socks, his first comment had ad hominems directed at you. I don't deny that. I don't even think he denies that but his 2nd comment, he was not attacking you in the least and he was trying to make an argument that you could have countered. Instead, you rant about the alt-right on a sub that isn't even alt-right. I also told Frog not to post ad hominems. His 2nd comment did not have any fallacies that I am aware of.

Just as the rape victim shouldn't have to respect the rapist, I won't respect the attackers here.

Attacking isn't a fallacy as long as it isn't a personal attack. I have seen your fair share of personal attacks and I do not deny there are many directed at you but it would be best to simply debunk frog's 2nd post (which has no attacks directed at you) and stop whining. You've asked if he was insane for a post that simply asks for sources and counters your argument.

It is interesting to me that you do not like the abuses of Israel and the US Israel lobby, but you seem to value comments by abusers here. I hope you will think about this, Jesus.

Low blow. This has nothing to do with me. I'm not valuing comments or picking sides. I understand that frogs first comment was fileld with emotion but his 2nd was well argued. Debunk his claims or ignore him, that simple.