Flu Has Disappeared Worldwide during the COVID Pandemic

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    [–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

    /u/TheAmeliaMay bot.

    [–]chadwickofwv 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Bot or not, they are correct.

    [–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Yep. I actually like this bot - except when people spend/waste time talking to it without knowing.

    If I knew who it was I'd ask them to just make a user alias named /u/AntiAmericanBOT and I would hope that the admins would let it fire off as it does.

    [–]DrCock 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    bardfinn says that bots are good.

    [–]zyxzevn 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    There are many bots on the forum that just do forum sliding,
    by posting all kinds of political statements.
    Should be banned immediately.

    Regarding forums:

    One of the reasons I start to believe we should start with new kind of censorship as a basis for a new forum, instead of no censorship.
    There are far too many posters that just post unrelated stuff or garbage.

    First you need to filter out people that are attacking the forums, people that you trust. This can change if the account is hacked, or if the person pretended to be friendly.
    Then you need to filter out the information that people produce and categorize it in the correct place. Because they often just dump it in any place.
    And the information that is ok needs to be weighted and placed in the time-line if it is news, or in an information tree if it has long-time use, or placed in a different bucket if it is joke, or fun, or emotional in another way.

    Just as this post is now probably useful, but placed in the totally wrong discussion.

    [–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    First you need to filter out people that are attacking the forums, people that you trust. This can change if the account is hacked, or if the person pretended to be friendly.

    Yes. And they're easier to spot.

    • > Then you need to filter out the information that people produce and categorize it in the correct place. Because they often just dump it in any place.

    I know, right?!

    And the information that is ok needs to be weighted and placed in the time-line if it is news, or in an information tree if it has long-time use, or placed in a different bucket if it is joke, or fun, or emotional in another way.

    In my /s/PhoenixForum dreams I imagine that every post is archived and has scraped the metadata like date published, updated, posted, etc - manually if necessary. I've even considered making them mandatory to post (ie. you have to jump through hoops to skip them for whatever reason/excuse).

    Time-lines and info-trees are terrific ideas and would be nice to have as visualization research tools.

    It took me forever but finally last week (seems like more) I finally got an old box running Lubuntu. This week I've been doing other stuff, but should get something running on them soon.

    [–]zyxzevn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Just playing with the data-analysis of a forum:

    Information trees /Analysis:

    This would be the analyzing system for the forum.
    I notice that different groups have different information trees.
    They are not 100% compatible, due to complete different viewpoints.
    So you have different information trees, about the same topics.
    Just compare the information trees of Climate alarmists and Climate skeptics.
    Climate alarmists (I think) use the made up data from some NASA activists.
    Climate skeptics use the data in the field and from the satellites. Derived from the information you can have analysis and conclusions.
    And solutions.

    Time-lines & place / Events:

    This can be a shooting or war, or disaster.
    Or a demonstration.
    Things happen at a certain place, and there are different people reporting on it.
    Emotions can be high. There will be many different people analyzing it.
    And there are people pushing for certain conclusions and certain reactions.
    Places may be different, but the same political power.
    Or the places may be same, but a a different political power.

    Trust:
    Level 0 - A person can be trusted to support the forum or not.
    Level 1 - A person can be trusted to play fair.
    Level 2 - A person can be trusted to give an answer in the correct category (no forum sliding).
    Level 3 - A person can be trusted to give an intelligent answer.
    Level 4 - A person can be trusted to give a fair answer based on his knowledge in a certain topic.
    Level 5 - A person can be trusted to give a good answer based on his knowledge in a certain topic.
    Level 6 - A person can be trusted to give a good answer based on his knowledge in a certain topic, outside the group think.
    It is not a linear scale.
    The first ones shows how much a user is cooperating on the forum.
    The last ones depend on whether the person knows anything about the topic, and how much he knows the limits of his knowledge and the knowledge&limits of people that are also into the topic.

    The trust system forms a tree with other people that we trust.
    That way I can assume that a person that you trust can be trusted almost to the level that you trust him.
    The trust system creates a ranking system for the posts that the person makes.
    It is automatically creating a shadowing system, which can fool users that manipulate the forums.

    A forum also needs a way to prevent the creation of 10s of accounts.

    [–]Akali 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Not a linear scale? So that mean one can obtain all 7 level at the same time? Sound like a challenge to me!

    [–]zyxzevn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The trust-levels are not meant to be single numbers indeed.
    It is partly about trust, partly about quality and partly about insightful and more.
    And maybe you would get a special prize if someone gives you votes for each of them.

    My idea is that the forum has librarians.
    Librarians are there to bring order in the chaos of information, using topics, keywords and different categories.
    A librarian creates his/her own knowledge tree of topics, makes categories and keywords.
    Also values the information in quality (or different qualities like: fun / nice / shock / learning / satire / solution ).
    And as reader you can also value the information with normal votes, and vote they are doing their jobs.

    You can subscribe to many different librarians and see the articles that they find good information.

    It is like a list of links to articles on the forum, and how much it is valued by different librarians.
    Sometimes you get a small article of links that are combined together to make it easier to study.

    And by collecting and categorizing links you can also become a librarian yourself.
    You may use the same links as other librarians do, but with a slightly different (and better) structure.
    The articles that you upvoted can already become part of the library that you are building, without much hassle.

    In a normal network this would exclude people with different opinions.
    And therefore you need different values for trust and for quality of information.

    By trusting you, I can see information that you are posting, and your comments to information.
    If my trusted friends trust you, I can also see you.
    It means that you are part of my basic trust network.

    The quality network is a step further. Which means that I want to see what you are posting.
    And I want to see your comments on the posts. This gives you higher ranking in my system,
    but usually only for the categories that I valued your quality.

    I can set the trust value lower to see people that are trolling and/or placing insults at each post.
    Or people that blame the >whoever< for everything that happened.
    And even lower to see people that are disrupting the forum, before they are banned.
    But by default I only see people that are already trusted by the people that I trust.
    This means that most users will see a forum that is nice and intelligent.
    And new people first have to earn some trust before they will even be noticed.

    But this is just a first idea, a lot more needs to be considered.