you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

5

/u/HibikiBlack

It is difficult to say how much there is anti-Semitism, how much depends on cultural differences only, but clearly there was an anti-converso lobby in the Society of Jesus and Acquaviva was part of it. If Monita secreta was written before 1596, then it probably was an effort of pro-converso lobby to defame Acquaviva. An inside converse lobby is the most likely origins of Monita Secreta. The main outside enemy of Jesuits was Jansenists, but why would Jansenists need to falsify a document against Jesuits? Later the main opponent of Jesuits was Freemasonry. They could have falsified, but in 1612 Freemasonry did not exist.

There are few other NWO theories that can be briefly commented. One, proposed by Marvin Antelman [9] and supported by Henry Makov and others, is that Frankists and Sabbateans would be still there somewhere. There still are a few Dönmeh members, a Sabbatean group in Turkey, but Frankists and Sabbatean are not controlling this world, and they never were so numerous. This theory is simply nonsense.

In brief:

Von Knigge, Weishapt’s Illuminati’s second man, was a co-creator of the Memphis lodges (originally called Philadelphes), which were Freemasonry, known for leftist revolutionary activities. Freemasons were the main opponent of Jesuits and a strong force in suppression of Jesuits. Illuminati infiltrated Freemasonry. This infiltrated revolutionary Freemasonry was behind revolutions e.g. of 1848 and freedom wars e.g in Latin America. Surely one can deduce from this that Weishaupt despised that ordinary type of Freemasonry (i.e., very few were studying the esoteric meaning of the symbols and for the majority it was a way to get useful connections to important people), but the whole structure of Freemasonry point to that it also originally had a double role. The rule of not being allowed to visit irregular lodges which nevertheless are accepted in higher spheres of Freemasonry strongly suggests that the irregular lodges had a task that was secret. Also the association with builders of the temple of Solomon was there from the beginning and it later (probably from the beginning) had a connection with restoration of Jews, i.e., what later was known as Zionism.

Jesuits were established to stop the protestant reform and to regain the world power of Vatican. Thus, Jesuits in this sense had the goal of conquering the world. The document suggests dubious methods. There were dubious methods: Conversos tried to take over Jesuits (that is why the blood purity laws were imposed) and they used dubious methods (or, were accused of using, probably correctly). The document may have been written by someone who opposed these methods, it may even have been inspired by a Converso who knew that earlier Conversos had been accused of those methods and now wanted to accuse the Old Christians of the same methods.

Suppression of Jesuits was after the attempt of Marranos to take over Jesuits. This attempt was mostly in Spain and it was defeated by the blood purity rules. Later Freemasons campaigned against Jesuits, who were the intellectual defenders of the Catholic belief, which was opposed by freethinkers like Freemasons. Many countries banned Jesuits because of this criticism, but the original reason for this criticism seems to be that Jesuits tried to help American Indians who were put to slave work and exploited by Portuguese.

[7] ROBERT J. BRECKINRIDGE, “THE SECRET COUNSELS OF THE SOCIETY OF JESUS, IN LATIN AND ENGLISH. THE LATIN BEING THE TEXT USED IN FORMER EDITIONS! THE ENGLISH, A NEW AND MORE LITERAL VERSION. TO WHICH IS PREFIXED A DISCOURSE ON THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE WORK,” Baltimore 1835,https://archive.org/stream/secretamonitasoc00brec/secretamonitasoc00brec_djvu.txt [8] Robert Alexander Maryks, “The Jesuit Order as a Synagogue of Jews”, Brill, 2010.https://gpreview.kingborn.net/805000/1e059c7ded9f4ec7ab5ebe6401907563.pdf

[9] Marvin Antelman: To Eliminate The Opiate, 1974, and


Now when I write or compile a post with many sources, hibs will respond, as useles_aether had responded with all the derogatory language included:

Muahahaha. The Third Age of Joachim is the incarnation of the Jesuits and their shitty communist ideals. You know that they had a fucking communist empire over here in Latin America long before the Russian revolution?

Both hibs and useless believe monkery and monasticism is communism. That should tell you something. If he does not respond in a patronizing way, he'll say "fuck you," or simply ignore your post.

Just look how these lunatics keep pushing anti-Semitism.

Calls me a lunatic, claims anyone who posts sources that don't agree with his opinions are anti-Semitic. Only a Zionist or a tribalist Jew, who admittedly hates monasticism; claims Jesus is fake, and promotes Tribalism, would use the anti-Semitic canard.

If I had to guess, are you a libertarian by chance? Anarchist? A reactionary dialectical materialist?

I'd love to know and wish you'd open the New Testament because although you might claim the Holocaust is fake, certainly the mainstream narrative is a lie; Jewish persecution was not (due to nazi rejection of supernaturalism over naturalism). Modern Jews are not Semitic, as you often like to claim they are, with all the ad-mixture they are mostly Japhites and cannanites and bearly semitic if at all. The chosen Hebrews, not converted Jews, were the ones God had the Old Covenant with. They’re all dead.

Non-Hebraic Rabbinists (followers of the Babylonian Talmud) have been using the “Jew” appellation since the late 18th Century in order to appear to be Judahite Hebrews.

One of /u/Hibikiblack responses:

Go to hell /u/Jesus. I'm going to enjoy showing everyone what the Jesuits did to the natives back then and how the Jesuits were controlling both Castro and the CIA simultaneously.

Another reply:

The fact that some Jews have done bad things doesn't mean that groups of them are out there to conquer the world. The Bill & Melinda Gates foundation is directly related to the Jesuits too...

Bill Gates has Jewish ancestry on both sides. His great, great, great grandfather was named Israel and he is of the Goetz German Ashkenazi Jew misanthropic tribe.

https://files.catbox.moe/5wwbqc.pdf

Secondly, I never claimed all Jews are out for world domination. Only Masons incorporated and certain sects within Judaism by way of the Noahide agenda. But according to hibs, yes, some Jews have done bad things, but not one Jewish sect wants to take over the world... sure, despite the talmudic redemption of the Jew being the synthesis for the taking over of the world for "world peace."

Though, that is more aimed at destroying the church and Christ. On the commercial/financial side is merely the deregulation of corporations, owned by plutocratic non-Jews and plutocratic Jews, to do as they please internationally. In recent times, the WEF's "responsible" stakeholder capitalism, full of wealthy Jews, is really to financialse biometrics on an impact/value basis to be traded on wall-street. That way money flow can continue and niche markets based on data-pharming can open up keeping their economy afloat whilst the middle and lower classes are destroyed.

And here are the posts hibs censored that I posted:

https://saidit.net/s/Jesuits/comments/7b1b/southern_israelite_drake_shelton_is_a_zionist_and/rlgi

https://saidit.net/s/Jesuits/comments/7b8p/jesuit_pierre_teilhard_de_chardin_conceived_the/rz7r

https://saidit.net/s/Jesuits/comments/7jbb/were_the_jesuits_cryptojews_did_they_stem_from/

https://saidit.net/s/Jesuits/comments/7l5x/marranos_jesuit_jews_taken_control_in_spain_and/

^ ^ ^ Removed 5 times by hibs.

Here is an interesting post hibs posted about anti-Semitism:

https://saidit.net/s/Jesuits/comments/7egw/the_jesuits_were_responsible_for_the_creation_of/

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Pathetic walls of text. How about some authorities actually investigate the Federal Reserve and who really owns the gold reserves... If you are so confident that the Jews own so much wealth. You guys at the CIA are so fucking pathetic...

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The FED was created by Warburg, a Jew, and pushed on him, including income tax by the swiss Jew, Seligman and his banking family. Morgan, not a Jew also had a hand but the reconstruction of the banking system were these two persons aspirations.

The largest shareholders and bond holders of US corp's chartered FED Reserve and it's debt, are Teacher's unions and people that try hard to make a living. They have transcripts that show that these bankers were quite happy that the people faithfully took the bonds and the banks did not take the brunt.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Care to debunk? of course not, Zionist shill. Jews are the richest demographic in the US and 60,000 Jews own 50 trillion in assets more than the bottom 50% and bottom 25% who carry debt and no assets.