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[–]fschmidt 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

I don't care about class, race and such. But most people are just hopeless morons, that is the problem. No use giving red pills to morons.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Social psychology studies show that morons are self-actualized - and thus motivated - in social groups that make good uses of red pills, as well as in social groups that don't; hence the former opiton is better for society.

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Okay, define "red pill". Yes people are guided by social groups, which is why I strongly support religion. But are religions based on red pills? I think mostly not. So I say forget red pills and just focus on whatever religions work by whatever means.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Used to refer to a process by which a person's perspective is dramatically transformed, introducing them to a new and typically disturbing understanding of the true nature of a particular situation.

Let's say you were told the story of the Last Supper in the year 311. It was a powerful story for Christians at that time. If Christianity or Islam or Judaism or Buddhism or whatever helps you with a new understanding of the true nature of a particular situation, all the better. But my reference is mainly to political change and social groups that can help with it by sharing helpful information that may be shocking at first, but is understood to help motivate people.

[–]fschmidt 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Politics is absolutely useless when the general population is depraved scum as it is now. I give credit to the Left for understanding how to implement change. They focused on education and turned universities into essentially churches of Satan. In other words, the Left changed values at a fundamental level and this is how they won. Because the Right fails to understand this, they will lose. Decent people should mostly forget politics and focus on supporting a good religious community.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Politics is absolutely useless when the general population is depraved scum as it is now.

Not true.

I give credit to the Left for understanding how to implement change. They focused on education and turned universities into essentially churches of Satan.

I see - this is the conversation you want to have. Universities were founded by clerics and humanist (moral) goals. Much of that continues.

In other words, the Left changed values at a fundamental level and this is how they won.

Definitely not that simple.

Because the Right fails to understand this, they will lose.

No - right-wing influencers are sophisticated and will help win additional elections (though with disinformation)

Decent people should mostly forget politics and focus on supporting a good religious community.

Yes - that's it - people in good religious communities should not bother to vote. But these religious communities are highly political, and they were the reason Trump was able to get electoral college votes 4 years ago. (It's our responsibility to vote in every election.)

[–]asg101 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Religion is just one more tool the oligarchs use to divide and conquer, it has worked perfectly since the day it was invented. They fear a critical mass of people learning to see beyond the issues they use to divide us, like gender, "race", religion, nationality, which fucking bathroom someone uses, where someone wants to live and work, and which color coded faction of the one corporate plutocratic party you support. The thing the oligarchy fears most is that some day enough people will realize WE have the power to crush the oligarchy. That is my definition of the REAL red pill.