Many many people are so proud to be getting their "1st dose" of some unnecessary experimental mystery shot

submitted by EndlessSunflowers from (self.conspiracy)

sorted by:
top
newinsightfulfun
you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–]VirgilGriff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

When someone forces you to confront errors in your argument which you can't refute, and calls you to task for your attempts to ignore those faults, they're obviously a shill. Because otherwise that'd mean that you're making mistakes, and that can't possibly be the case.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Sure. Can you refute the WHO stating that this is only as deadly as the flu?

That fact alone makes this a moot point.

Since this is a fact, why are you adamantly pursuing this moot point?

It doesn't take a genius to guess the answer.

[–]VirgilGriff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

You previously said not to trust the WHO. Also the WHO has said it's more deadly than the flu.

But using non-WHO sources, here are American researchers who calculated a range for the IFR of COVID-19 infection: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

The "Scenario 5: Current best estimate" is 0.002%, 0.05%, 0.6%, and 9% for age ranges 0-17, 18-49, 50-64, and 65+, respectively.

The gross IFR regardless of age brackets is 1.15% for first-world countries (where old people don't die from other causes first) and 0.23% for third-world countries: https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20201030/covid-19-infection-fatality-ratio-is-about-one-point-15-percent

The IFR for normal influenza is 0.039%: https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m3883/rr

So the gross IFR is 5.9 to 29.5 times higher for COVID-19 when compared to influenza. WHO sources are also similar to these.

It doesn't take a genius to guess the answer.

Any conclusion you come to on any topic is evidence that it doesn't take a genius to do it.

Will you now return to your failure to defend the flaws in your argument that I pointed out by showing you the VAERS data?

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

So the gross IFR is 5.9 to 29.5 times higher for COVID-19 when compared to influenza.

Your figures are trash.

The CDC admitted that only 6% of deaths were from Covid. With an avg of 4 additional comorbidities.. ADDITIONAL!

On avg these people were dying of 4 additional factors. *4 ADDITIONAL FACTORS?!*
It's so weak that it takes an average of 4 extra factors to tip the scales to death.

So for every single Coco death, there is someone with 8 additional deadly issues.
These are the official figures.

If someone wrote a book and this was the pandemic story line it would be laughed out of the publisher's office.
It's absurd. A complete joke.

You can't make this nonsense up, but the MSM scumbags do it every day.

The Coco only deaths were probably frail elderly people who were murdered in nursing homes.

6%: Murdered by ventilators stretching out their elderly lungs.. The crime of the century.

httpsss://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

Comorbidities and other conditions

Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). The number of deaths that mention one or more of the conditions indicated is shown for all deaths involving COVID-19 and by age groups. For 6% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death.

I don't envy your position. You have to shill for a hopelessly indefensible crime.

The sleeping public is waking up. ;-)

Edit: Multiply your death figures by 0.06, and that's what the CDC admitted to.

No doubt is actually a smaller percentage.

[–]VirgilGriff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

You don't seem to understand the concept of an IFR. It takes into account comorbidities. Also, having a comorbidity isn't an invitation to just die. "Doctor, this heart attack victim has a comorbidity!" "Oh, well then don't bother with resuscitation and we won't even write down his death."

Here's a shocker, boomer: almost everyone has comorbidities for some disease. Especially age-d people, like yourself.

Edit: Multiply your death figures by 0.06, and that's what the CDC admitted to.

No doubt is actually a smaller percentage.

"People didn't die if they don't have comorbidities."

You're actually terrified of this disease, aren't you? You're fascinated by it and unable to do anything but cling to fallacious arguments and even ignore your own words, which moments ago you claimed were messages of deliverance from the tyranny of the disease. Still waiting on you to talk about VAERS, by the way.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

VAERS data is manipulated to suggest the jab is safer than it is.

It's crap.

I'm satisfied with the info I've presented. You got your ass handed to you.

Bye.

Edit:. Comorbidities mean they were already dying of something.
Like falling off of roofs, and crashing motorcycles.
It's only approximately as deadly as the flu. Actually, less so because they factored in the motorcycle crashes, etc.

Also, the flu disappeared this season. Rebranded it Coco.

[–]VirgilGriff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

VAERS data is manipulated to suggest the jab is safer than it is.

It wasn't manipulated 24 hours ago when you attempted to use it to win an argument. But now that I showed you it supports my counter-argument, it's suddenly manipulated and I'm a shill!

How often do you listen to yourself? Or have you learned to just not take yourself very seriously by this point?

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

It took you less than 4 minutes to respond to that last message. You must live to reply to my messages.

I pity your existence as a pharma bot..

The data was manipulated. I included the link that proves it's manipulated in the original VAERS response.

You probably didn't watch it, because you're a bot.

[–]VirgilGriff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Stop looking at the inbox icon when you're browsing Saidit!

If I was a bot why would you pity me? Are you aware of what bots are?

The data was manipulated. I included the link that proves it's manipulated in the original VAERS response.

No, you claimed that the VAERS data showed the vaccine was deadly. I used the same source to show you that your data shows it's 0.031%:

A VAERS search for all reported adverse reactions from COVID-19 vaccines shows 50,716 people reporting side-effects. Even assuming every person reporting is reporting something that's serious (the vast majority aren't), the US has administered 165M vaccinations so far. That's a reported incidence rate of 0.031%, far lower than even the fatality rate in even the most protected demographics for COVID-19.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Stop looking at the inbox icon when you're browsing Saidit!

You're now a bot that is attempting to fabricate statements that I never made. Anyone can easily scroll up and verify. Bad bot!

I never said this, or anything remotely similar. It's not even plausible.

I'm guessing this deliberatly fabricated lie is a bot trick; a feeble attempt to appear like an actual human response.

You failed miserably. Nobody is stupid enough to fabricate quotes others have said.
Anybody can check the comment history for edits.

This isn't my first debate with a pharma bot.

It's apparent that you are a bot, and your limited abilities prevent you from watching/listening to evidence presented in videos.

Hopefully, anyone reading this will see through your scripted bot BS.