Many many people are so proud to be getting their "1st dose" of some unnecessary experimental mystery shot

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[–]Bigs 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Ah, OK I see your mistake.

As your own link says, high levels of people don't have any symptoms at all. In younger groups that can be over 80%.

"This estimate was based on four large population-based, cross-sectional surveys, among which the median proportion of individuals who had no symptoms at the time of a positive test was 46 percent (range 43 to 77 percent), and on 14 longitudinal studies, among which a median of 73 percent of initially asymptomatic individuals remained so on follow-up"

That 15% you mention is of those who DO HAVE SYMPTOMS. So basically it's "of those who were made ill, 15% of them were severely ill", which is not the same as saying 15% of all those who get it will be severely ill.

When 73% don't even have symptoms, math says that 15% of the remaining 27 is only 4%, see?

[–]VirgilGriff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You're comparing two studies and concluding that the second one didn't include the proportion of people who are asymptomatic, which it doesn't say. Further sources back up the same claim that 15% of cases progress to severe disease: https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/risk-comms-updates/update-36-long-term-symptoms.pdf?sfvrsn=5d3789a6_2

Approximately 10-15% of cases progress to severe disease, and about 5% become critically ill.

Regardless, even if I accepted that argument, it'd mean that 15% of people who are symptomatic with COVID-19 develop serious cases, with all the potential for long-term damage that comes with it. How is that not indicative of a serious disease? I've had a bunch of family and friends at this point who have had it (excluding the ones who may have had it and not known about it) and their experienced have varied from flu-like w/ no apparent lasting damage to severe with obvious lasting damage.

[–]Bigs 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It does say, it very specifically says "symptomatic".

"How is that not indicative of a serious disease?"

It's a serious disease, sometimes, but NOT serious enough to throw away our freedoms and economy. It's also not serious enough to continue with bullshit we already know doesn't work, such as masks and social distancing.

We ALSO know that earlier treatment protocols were shit, such as forced ventilation, and killed or hurt more than they helped. Today we know vitamin D, Ivermectin and zinc will literally cure the disease, especially when combined with an antibiiotic.

But still we act like it's a DEADLY PLAGUE! and we all must, absolutely must, enrich certain companies peddling experimental RNA injections?

How about fuck no?

[–]VirgilGriff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's a serious disease, sometimes, but NOT serious enough to throw away our freedoms and economy.

I didn't say it was serious enough to throw away your freedoms and economy.

It's also not serious enough to continue with bullshit we already know doesn't work, such as masks and social distancing.

If masks and social distancing don't work, how was the flu virtually non-existent in 2020? Coincidence?

Today we know vitamin D, Ivermectin and zinc will literally cure the disease, especially when combined with an antibiiotic.

Lol, HCQ didn't work out so now you think another anti-parasitic drug will? Ivermectin doesn't work: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2777389

Vitamin D, zinc, and preventative antibiotics are part of treatment for severe COVID-19, along with remdesivir, monoclonal antibody treatments, dexamethasone, famotidine, and melatonin. It's also critical to catch it early for those treatments to be effective. We currently don't have any drug that can cure COVID-19...it's just limiting the damage your body might do to itself if you have a bad reaction.

But still we act like it's a DEADLY PLAGUE! and we all must, absolutely must, enrich certain companies peddling experimental RNA injections?

You can wait on the vaccines or not take the mRNA ones, as it's an experimental technology. J&J uses an adenovirus vector that's been used in previous outbreaks since the 70s, so perhaps that's less experimental.

How about fuck no?

What's your motivating fear? That vaccinations for COVID-19 will become mandatory?

[–]Bigs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The study against HCQ had to be retracted, because it was fake. Ivermectin already has dozens of studies proving it does work.

Ivermectin does actually cure. It's also a great preventative. I understand your ignorance, as there's a truly massive disinformation campaign underway, hiding reality and pushing an agenda - but you're on Saidit ffs? You should know better. Make an effort?

Yes, my main concern is a mandatory (or effectively mandatory by restricting those without) "vaccine". It's still very experimental, and you know why we didn't already have ANY vaccines for ANY coronavirus? Because every previous attempt has proven harmful, either directly or when the patient is subject to the real virus.

I can't be asked to explain but there are good reasons for this.

I also read that those with the flu jab suffer more from coronavirus, though I suspect that's because they're the exact same people most at risk from both the flu and rona, so probably a moot point.

Tip; try a different search engine from Google.

Edit: as an aside, both my wife and I had something. I went to enter a shop and was told my temperature too high. I felt fine and said it must be a mistake but other people were registering normal. Mmm. Then my wife called and said she couldn't enter shops, she felt fine but had a temperature?

Later we both felt feverish, headache, joints a bit stiff.

So that afternoon we both took the Ivermectin I'd stashed, along with vit D and zinc.

Fine the next day, temperature fine, everything fine. We urged other members of the family that we'd been in close contact to take the same, a single IM tab, a single zinc tab and a large Vit D tab. They did.

Everybody fine.

No that's not a scientific peer reviewed study, but it (literally) works for me.

Edit 2 - I forgot to answer about the vanishing flu. 2 points... 1. Flue deaths are mostly bullshit anyway:

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/lawrence-solomon/death-by-influenza_b_4661442.html

Yep, even huffpo is right twice a day. And 2. Flu cases are being classed as Covid. Duh!