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[–]EndlessSunflowers[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

The conspiracy here is a deep one
Earth's history is thousands of millions of years old
We have no idea what really happened - and whenever unexplained artifacts or ruins can be made to disappear, they do.
What is inside of all the world's secret archives!?!?
What has been destroyed, intentionally, or by millions of years of shifting sands and seas .........

[–]EndlessSunflowers[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

You've dropped a level in my books by promoting this woo. Despite this you're still one of the good ones.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Some of the resources they provided is indeed "woo" as the kids say these days. However, you can't seriously ignore the existence of giants, can you? Or, the existence of intelligent life on Earth that isn't human? Does everybody here believe their ancestors were simply too retarded to accurately remember or teach anything?

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I have seriously ignored all of those. They seem like woo. I could be wrong. I'd need some good references and to be compelled investigate. If it starts out poorly I won't continue.

" Does everybody here believe their ancestors were simply too retarded to accurately remember or teach anything? "

That's a loaded and misleading question. "Anything" or everything? Our ancestors obviously didn't have the technological resources we now have. Then as now, people were also lazy, not motivated, and subject to propaganda and misinformation. MOST of history has been wiped out. I don't have every note and drawing I've ever made, nor every book or video I've ever looked at. Things get lost or break down over time. History is naturally eroded, and a little is even intentionally or accidentally erased.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Most of history has been reconstructed, there is a difference. I have less of an interest of saying "this happened, here is proof" and more of interest of taking into account everything that could be portrayed as evidence. I am not saying that giants exist the way our ancestors say they did. That's ludicrous. It's also ludicrous to say these are just made-up stories. In history, if there are multiple sources talking about something, and there is archaeological evidence, and written histories, oral stories, all coinciding with each other... well, they treat that as solid evidence to stand on. There is all of that for giants, just not the way we were told them. The sources that I have are translated compilations of fairy-tales, folklores, annals, historical reproductions/copies of annals or folklores, and so on. I don't go to youtube to learn. I find relevant texts from the modern era, relevant texts from what I call the revisionist era (1200-1700), and relevant texts from people who actually trusted their ancestors, so contemporary writers to the events and cultures who have been covered up. Does this give me definite knowledge on any one subject? NO, just like it doesn't for every other researcher, scholar, or historian. Edit: I should say, that after a closer look, all of those sources are indeed "woo" some of them with actual mysteries involved, so they could provide relevant information that would be better attained elsewhere.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Related/unrelated...

I used to be passionate about NorthWest Pacific First Nations art and culture. I have ~80 books surrounding it. I also used to dig the beatniks. The two are mostly unrelated.

Gary Snyder wrote "He Who Hunted Birds in His Father's Village: The Dimensions of a Haida Myth" (1979).

It's interesting-ish, though not the most engaging. You might appreciate some of the ideas. I could mail the short book if you're seriously curious, though I don't know if it'd be worth the bother. It's not a great book, not new or unique, but it's not entirely without merit either.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I've never heard of Gary Snyder. I am mildly interested, but not to the point of having you mail me anything. The internet often has these things hidden somewhere on it, and if it doesn't, well I've found good local places (don't even need to wear a mask!) to order books from. Thank you.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

On The Road was Kerouac's most famous but I like Dharma Bums better, with the main guy based on Gary. I was in my teens or twenties reading that.

The book is not long, perhaps in PDF somewhere. I wouldn't even bother reading it. Certainly not ground breaking anymore. However, you might want to read reviews or what others have said - if there's even Internet-age content of that sort.