The Catholic case for Communism. (Jesuit America Magazine) [X-post from s/Jesuits]

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[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I believe the Jesuits were the ones that created communism as an ideology so I think this article from themselves may help expose some of their views to some.

Communism originated from their ascetic practices and it was implemented in Latin America long before the Russian communist revolution. A lot of Jesuits, the black pope included have toyed with the idea of merging the marxist ideals with the traditions of the Catholic Church, but IMO a lot of the Catholic and Christian ideals are by themselves already communist. It is born from the idea that all people have a soul aspect to them... and this by itself is equal to god. Eventually degenerating into a hatred of reality and radical ideals of equality.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Catholic and Christian ideals are by themselves already communist.

How so? The Gospel preaches that if you don't work you don't eat and if you don't work to make your life a sacrifice unto God then you will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

Ther is nothing about communism in "The Way," nothing, except that communist ideals might have used Christian ideals on paper only, such as what he sows he reaps. In crony-capitalism and communisms case, it's the opposite:

You don't own the means of production and are a serf and you don't reap what you sow.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I would argue that the technocratic plan that is being pushed is even more radically communist than the stereotypical evil commies everyone knows; who are basically capitalists dressed differently.

It's all about an extreme, mysantrophyc rejection of the very things that make us human in order to replace it with a computer/mind merge like existence. Because it will supposedly make us one with god, as in an extreme communism. But ironically, each person's subjectivity is the most holy thing they possess. The induatrialism that helps achieve this needs to be replaced by community-driven societies, teaching people to reach their full potential as humans.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not communist. It's feudalism or serfdom ie., securitising debt and profiting off of potential impact vs. value.

But everything else you've said I agree with.