PragerU is literally Israeli intelligence || James "ZioCon" O'Keefe; also next to him is Marissa Streit: a Jewess Zionist, chief executive officer of PragerU who served in Israel's military defense Unit 8200 and the IDF.... GOT IT? No. Why Not?

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[–]Canbot 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

What is your point exactly? If you think that "they can't be trusted" is a valid argument to not listen you are ignorant. You are looking at the world through an "argument from authority" fallacy lens. You are basing your belief in what is said on how much authority and trust you place in the speaker. That works as a crutch for low IQ people, but that is not how I look at things. I believe in evaluating every argument on the merits of the argument irrespective of who said it or why they said it.

Furthermore, even if you show that they are constantly bullshiting about one topic that does not automatically mean that everything they say is bullshit. Not least of all because they have guest speakers who speak for themselves.

[–]Jesus[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Furthermore, even if you show that they are constantly bullshiting about one topic that does not automatically mean that everything they say is bullshit. Not least of all because they have guest speakers who speak for themselves.

When did I ever bring up an argument NOT to trust them. Trust him, Erik Prince, the SHillmen Foundation and PragerU all you want. But remember, Mossad and Israeli intelligence orchestrated 9/11. O'Keefe does what he is told and paints a partisan light on it.

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Trust him

You STILL don't get it. It has nothing to do with trust. YOU see the world through the lens of authority. It doesn't have to be that way.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That is the ONLY way they force upon us.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Agreed.

Take everything with a grain of source. Even the MSM mixes in some truth now and then to better triangulate from.

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Having a singular focus on sources is part of the same fallacy. You are just shifting the argument from authority from the speaker to the sources. There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. Of course facts matter, but you have to evaluate them in context. For example when someone says poverty leads to crime (sources) and black people are disproportionately poor (sources) therefore high black crime rates are caused by poverty you have to be able to dig past that and consider other evidence not presented by the speaker. You have to ask things like "do welfare programs reduce crime?" "are non black communities effected the same way by poverty?" "at what level of income does crime disappear?"

You have to be able to think for yourself. It just isn't useful to bicker back and forth over who should be trusted based on proxies like positions in authority, perceived bias, etc.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Triangulating on the truth is a balancing act. It's never all or nothing. Many things work on many levels. Authority is to blame as is the speaker as are the sources as are the repeaters and distorters - all with their own contexts. Nothing happens in a vacuum.

To your example, you have to also consider, "did politicians plan for welfare to become a trap?", "why do they focus on small time crime that is insignificant by comparison with corporate crime?", "is there systemic historical oppression against those visibly or economically different?", "how can they expect people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps if they can't even afford boots nor are provided opportunities by those with profound abundance?", "are they weaponizing this history against society now?"

They already know crime and other problems mostly disappear after incomes of $75,000 and higher - but they intentionally keep most people oppressed and struggling so they won't organize to become more balanced like Sweden.

I agree, critical independent thought is paramount. Everyone has their legitimate views supported by their "facts" from their "trusted" sources (earned or not).