The Talmud encourages Jews to commit all manner of criminal activity without fear of punishment, but the Jewish Encyclopedia states that the penalty for Gentiles who violate even one of the 7 Noahide Laws is death.

submitted by Jesus from self.conspiracy

sorted by:
top
newinsightfulfun
you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Bestiality isn't evil? You may want to get your own philosophy sorted out. If you can't see why people have qualms with polyamorous relationships, trans, beastiality, etc. then you truly have not looked into psychohistory. These things are interesting to look into because they tend to offer NOTHING to those who do these things. It's all about them feel-goods, eh?

[–]ctvzbuxr 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Again, there is a difference between personal taste and ethics.
I can, for example, explain why rape is wrong. You can not want to be raped, because rape implies that the act is involuntary, therefore, in order to accept that rape is morally good, you would have to accept that rape is both bad (as done to you) and good (as done to others) at the same time. That is not a coherent position, and therefore illogical. Therefore, arguing for rape to be ethical is impossible.
You can make the same argument about things like murder, assault, theft, etc. But you cannot make the same argument about trans poeple or polyamory. When it comes to bestiality, animals are not protected by morality the same way a more intelligent creature would be. If it is ok to kill an animal for food, then it is (morally) ok to fuck it (though, again, I find it disgusting and would never encourage it).
The ultimate goal in every person's life is happyness. Happyness is the only goal that we don't persue in order to achieve something else. Some poeple are happy when they hack their penis off. And while I may not agree with this, I do not have the right to stand in the way of their happiness, nor am I in a position to decide for them what makes them happy. I just don't think children should have their mind poisoned by this stuff.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

If happiness is your goal, I have a solution for you: Drugs. Meth and heroin, every single day. Max dose each time. You will be happy your whole life.

[–]ctvzbuxr 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I don't know, I don't think I will be very happy when I'm broke on the streets with organ failure. But if you don't want to be happy, then maybe amputate your limbs and blind yourself, that's a sure way to make you miserable for your whole life. And you would make me happy because you can't type stupid shit on the internet anymore.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Then all you need is make sure as you get broke you take the most massive dose ever. Simple, really. Since pleasure is your goal, you will have achieved it to the max, and then when there is no pleasure left --> out the exit.

You don't believe in anything other than pleasure, either way, so it won't matter, you think there isn't anything after material life. Of course you might be "unhappy" afterward when you discover, as you leave your body, that life is absolutely NOT about "happiness". We are doing much greater work than that here.

If you are genuinely interested, I can offer you the meaning of life. Typed as a reply to your post. But there is no "proof" that a nihilist will be capable of perceiving. Still, the offer stands.

[–]ctvzbuxr 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

So you are hoping to be happy in your afterlife, and you act accordingly in your present life, so that you can spend an eternity in bliss. That is very reasonable behavior, if you believe in an afterlife, which I don't. But you are proving my point. Your goal in life is happiness, just like mine. You wake up every day thinking that you will end up in heaven or whatever you believe in, and that makes you happy. If you abandon what you believe is the true purpose in life, you would be miserable because you would wake up every day thinking you would end up sodomized with a trident like us poor sinners.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Nope, not at all. I am not religious at all. Instead I know the meaning of my life and of all human life, in a more general manner. As such, "to live is to suffer" takes on a great meaning, where the REASON for our suffering makes gives it worth enduring. Of course, for people who do not know such things, suffering seems like what's to be avoided. But a conscious being understands the futility of attempting to avoid suffering, rather than conquering it.

[–]ctvzbuxr 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm glad most people don't have that attitude. Because we would still be living in the stone age if they did. Progress is generally a result of trying to make life easier, more pleasurable, to avoid hard work or to gain more of what you desire.
Trying to conquer suffering sounds nice, until you get a major tooth ache - in that case I'm pretty sure most people would prefer to get rid of their suffering by visiting the dentist.
Trying to conquer your suffering is what you do when you have no means to avoid it, or when it is a necessary price for avoiding greater suffering in the future. Every reasonable person lives like that. You live like that. Get off your high horse.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Being CONSCIOUS of the MEANING of life removes a lot of the illusion that the self is in control. It is not. What you think you are, is a sham. What each and everyone of us think we are, IS A LIE. And so are our lives. But fine.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Dude, many major philosophers, scientists, theologians, architects, writers, and scholars have had this exact perspective. People who went on to create great things which helped alleviate suffering for themselves and for others. This isn't a perspective where we say that all happiness is to be avoided, that all pleasure is to be avoided. This is a perspective where we say that happiness isn't the GOAL. You are saying that it is the goal, and I think you have good reasons for that. Also, you are a moral relativist if you use objective standards for one situation (pedophilia) then subjective standards for another, similar one (bestiality)