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[–]Zahn 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

So from a purely greedy financial POV, there's no reason to give vaccines at all.

You are very, very naive if you think a pharmaceutical injection equates to good health. It's a little strange that purely unvaccinated people have a significantly lower rate of allergies and auto immune disorders which require a lifetime of drugs and doctor visits.

Just stop with your foolishness. This is a topic you can only use appeal to authority fallacies to get on top of.

[–]maga_espada 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Uh huh. Dr YouTube is about to school me. Where's the NIH research about how vaccines cause allergies? I'm ready to listen.

[–]Zahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Being patronizing doesn't look good on you, and a strong indicator of an inability to facilitate a cogent counter argument. At some point, it would behoove you to open your mind to predictable human nature and see the larger picture of reality.

Vaccine and allergy correlation..

https://www.jacionline.org/article/s0091-6749(05)00026-6/fulltext

...and much more.

Also not cause, but are a major modern contributor to.

[–]maga_espada 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Lol surveys sent exclusively to people who were already registered as being skeptical of vaccines. Now that's some sound science.

[–]Zahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

That's not a rebuttal, all samples, surveys and studies point toward the same conclusion. I see you're running on fumes now. We can keep going further and further down this rabbit hole, but I don't think you can keep up considering your increasingly weak retorts.

[–]maga_espada 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Lol it is a rebuttal. your first attempt at posting a source showing that vaccines lead to allergies is a survey sent to antivaxxers asking them if vaccines are bad.

You got an awful or of ad hominems for someone who is so sure of their position....

[–]Zahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Apparently, self reporting was acceptable enough for medical professional researchers to fund a study over the findings. I guess you think yourself smarter than them though.

The data included 515 never vaccinated, 423 partially vaccinated, and 239 completely vaccinated children

For you to insinuate that the non vaccinated were intentionally being deceptive, it would follow then that the other two groups in the study were being just as intentionally deceptive.

Once again, you are waffling and attacking the messenger instead of the findings.

There's so much more, my simple minded little friend....

[–]maga_espada 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm attacking the study, not the messenger, you stupid fuck.

[–]Zahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh good, it seems we are making some progress with you. And you're attacking the messenger now too. Bravo friendly pro vaccine conspiracy nut job!

[–]Zahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Let's continue with our lesson in how to do proper research before you try to open your mouth again and show everyone how ignorant and arrogant you are.

Is infant immunization a risk factor for childhood asthma or allergies?, was one of the earlier studies to show the potential relationship between infant immunization with subsequent development of asthma and allergy.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9345669

This study done in New Zealand evaluated 1,265 children up to the age of 16 who had been vaccinated as an infant with the diphtheria/pertussis/tetanus (DPT) shot. As of age 10, of those immunized infants, 22% had gone for asthma consultations and 23% had experienced asthma episodes. Of those same vaccinated children, 30% of those had doctor consultations for other allergic illness. They compared those results to 23 non-immunized children. Of those 23 non-immunized children, none of them had experienced any asthma or allergy episodes, or had any doctor visits. Six years later, they did a follow- up and as of age 16 the results were essentially the same. To be sure that the results were not influenced by genetics or environment, factors such as ethnicity, socioeconomic status, parental allergies or asthma, parental smoking or pet ownership were taken into consideration. To put into real numbers, if the DPT shots were not the causative factor, one would expect that six of the 23 non-immunized children would have developed asthma and seven of those 23 would have developed allergies. This is statistically significant and is a stark contrast between the two groups.