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[–]maga_espada 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Researchers doing research on what may lower costs of medical practices is not the same as big pharma bribing doctors.

Please provide a single source for pharma bribing doctors to prescribe vaccines.

[–]Zahn 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Firstly, I never said vaccines, I said products. Understandably providing financial incentives is bad optics for Pharma, which is why in the past they have utilized insurance companies as proxies to facilitate this...from what our research has indicated. Also, a very big push by the Pharma mind fuck propaganda machine to divert attention away from their ethically questionable activity.

The links were about existing incentive programs, not pilot programs. You are missing an obvious important point however. Doctors, just like every business, place profit mark ups on their products retail, which they procure at wholesale prices. There is always financial incentive to promote drugs.

Like I said, you are naive to assume people are more important than profits in the medical machine industry.

[–]maga_espada 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

And you're missing an obvious point. Vaccines are cheap and providing them will prevent costlier issues in the future. So from a purely greedy financial POV, there's no reason to give vaccines at all.

You can keep calling me naive all day long. It's fun.

[–]Zahn 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

So from a purely greedy financial POV, there's no reason to give vaccines at all.

You are very, very naive if you think a pharmaceutical injection equates to good health. It's a little strange that purely unvaccinated people have a significantly lower rate of allergies and auto immune disorders which require a lifetime of drugs and doctor visits.

Just stop with your foolishness. This is a topic you can only use appeal to authority fallacies to get on top of.

[–]maga_espada 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Uh huh. Dr YouTube is about to school me. Where's the NIH research about how vaccines cause allergies? I'm ready to listen.

[–]Zahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Being patronizing doesn't look good on you, and a strong indicator of an inability to facilitate a cogent counter argument. At some point, it would behoove you to open your mind to predictable human nature and see the larger picture of reality.

Vaccine and allergy correlation..

https://www.jacionline.org/article/s0091-6749(05)00026-6/fulltext

...and much more.

Also not cause, but are a major modern contributor to.

[–]maga_espada 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Lol surveys sent exclusively to people who were already registered as being skeptical of vaccines. Now that's some sound science.

[–]Zahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

That's not a rebuttal, all samples, surveys and studies point toward the same conclusion. I see you're running on fumes now. We can keep going further and further down this rabbit hole, but I don't think you can keep up considering your increasingly weak retorts.

[–]maga_espada 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Lol it is a rebuttal. your first attempt at posting a source showing that vaccines lead to allergies is a survey sent to antivaxxers asking them if vaccines are bad.

You got an awful or of ad hominems for someone who is so sure of their position....

[–]Zahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Apparently, self reporting was acceptable enough for medical professional researchers to fund a study over the findings. I guess you think yourself smarter than them though.

The data included 515 never vaccinated, 423 partially vaccinated, and 239 completely vaccinated children

For you to insinuate that the non vaccinated were intentionally being deceptive, it would follow then that the other two groups in the study were being just as intentionally deceptive.

Once again, you are waffling and attacking the messenger instead of the findings.

There's so much more, my simple minded little friend....