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[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

The reason I wouldn't call her a "loser" pertains to a book I've read recently which I am shilling left and right.

It's about Mossad assassinations and it's called "Rise and Kill First". Politics and morality aside, it's a very fun read! At 2700+ assassinations in their 70 year history, Mossad is far and away the shadiest most lethal and evil government spy organization on Earth (and buried in Mossad is Caesaria, the "Mossad within Mossad"). Having sloppily killed off UCLA grad students, Brazillian generals, random blonde South Americans, and hundreds of harmless nuclear physicists in the Middle East often times in sovereign Western nations... combine this with Israeli espionage and scandalous treatment of its allies and you will see a clear-as-day impetus for blackmailing foreign governments. After finishing the book, it is obvious to me that Israel would literally not exist without political blackmail.

Ghislaine facilitating that is Earth shaking. Arranging for foreign leaders to drunkenly fuck 15yo sex slaves to blackmail them to allow for Israel's continued existence is not a "loser" legacy. Degenerate sure, but we all need to know when to respect our enemies for their ability. Israel itself owes it's existence to the Maxwell family and by proxy, the Maxwell family is responsible for some of the most Earth-shattering events in human history.

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you're right, a lot of succesful ops, not many failures that a loser would have. Makes me wonder why her and her pal epstein ever got arrested in the first place, didn't blackmail or pay off enough people? If so why not? Why did Ghislane's dad Robert end up killed though. Kind of a loser way to go out after a life of success. Just faked a death and retired? If so why, why not just enjoy retirement with no cover story, not every mossad agent fakes his death, was his life in danger from Israel's enemies? If Israel owes it's existence to the Maxwell family, did they decide to sell them out? Does that book you mention also go into the maxwell family?

What you're talking about is kind of like how Time Magazine used to make it's man of the year the one who had the most effect on the world that year whether good or bad, like Hitler.

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Makes me wonder why her and her pal epstein ever got arrested in the first place, didn't blackmail or pay off enough people?

The same thing that happened to a lot of scandalous politicians, they didn't account for telecommunications like the internet. The digital age has made clandestine operations much more difficult and numerous journalist hits eventually added up with Jeffrey Epstein. Robert Maxwell's death is more mysterious, I have speculation but no one seems to know anything for sure other than that he died mysteriously.

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My theory which I have no proof of is epstein's crimes got taken more seriously due to metoo's movement. I don't know what to trust on that because the metoo movement started with ronan farrow reporting on weinstein. This was not due to the internet. It was allowed to be reported in the MSM and I don't know why. Others got arrested or cancelled in it's wake. Epstein was known about for years just like Weinstein. Epstein also got arrested in 2008 but given a swetheart deal. Maybe they had no choice? But why, the weird govt/MSM hybrid still protects others like Podesta and those that were on the lolita express. Besides the internet cancelling someone, to actually be arrested it takes cops, prosecutors, judges and the systrem to make actual moves. The internet can pressure that but only so far. I think these certain people are sacrificed for a reason, and epstein's death was faked, something fishy sure did go down making it look like a coverup, and yet here is Ghislane also being arrested. She could have just stayed out of the country forever like Roman Polanski.

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It's difficult to say for sure. The #metoo twitter trend probably did raise awareness for Epstein though, so it's not a terrible theory. You're essentially asking the question of how organic was the #metoo movements- I'm not sure.

As for Maxwell's capture, it's actually not as mysterious as it might appear on face value. Despite her connections and accomplishment, she was profoundly arrogant and inept. This woman would take rich and powerful men underwear shopping for fun and by in large showed very little actual thoughtfulness in her actions; she was just naturally fearless and shrewd. Her father always liked her best because of this attribute, she had a killer instinct.

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I don't know that much about her personality, you seem to have done some research. Others I guess were more careful. Podesta and Obama were caught using cocewords in emails they never thought would get out but there is plausible deniability there I guess. When you're doing these kinds of things, pedo shit, trafficing, I would guess there is no way to keep it from getting out, too salcious. You can leave no traces at all but then you will have the victims speaking out, and nowadays they might not have proof but when a ton of victims are coing forward people start to trust them. You had Kavanaugh being accused by one person from 30 years ago who couldn't remember a lot so most people didn't believe it but imagine there were 30+ people like with Weinstein or Bill Cosby. Epstein with a ton of victims. In the future these psychopaths might just kill their victims. Maybe that's why others get away with it, maybe Epstein and Maxwell, as bad as they are, couldn't bring themselves to kill these people. Others do bizarre rituals where they kill people and harvest the adrenochrome, a crazy conspiracy theory maybe but I do think terrible murders occur out there in this fucked up world.

Back to this topic, so Ghislane was on reddit, now I'd say that by itself is a little relatable, I mean I used reddit too, and use saidit now . . . she wanted attention I guess to post so much. Attention is what led to getting caught. You had kind of praised her as someone who effected major change on the world, it seems she wanted to use reddit for that as well, promoting certain types of posts. She also modded subreddits devoted to hot female celibrities, definitely a lesbian, I can't blame her. I like them too.