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[–]grapeparty 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (40 children)

Our Boys is a show that came out last year based very closely on a group of four ultra-observant Orthodox settlers that kidnapped, murdered and burned a random Muslim kid out of East Jerusalem.

[–]AmbroseBierce 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (39 children)

Not to mention the earlier seasons of NCIS, which looked at it, though not in a nuanced way

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (38 children)

That's two. Does it equal te thousands of muslims portrayed as terrorists?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am honestly super curious about this show, sounds interesting but considering how they published it on HBO out of all places, I'm skeptical that the show is substantially anything more than a Hasbra attempt at framing the Palestinian issue in a way that is favorable for Israel one way or another. If it was anything else, it wouldn't be broadcast on HBO to the American mainstream

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (36 children)

Their religion calls for mass slaughter of "infidels" while they are could also technically pass as christians, since their holy book mentions Jesus as the son of god. It's a completely schyzophrenic religion that needs only one thing: to be wiped off the face of the Earth.

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (31 children)

Does it though? I've never met a muslim that wasn't nice. And none of them that I have met want to destroy or murder anyone that I know of. /u/azaad is a muslim, maybe he can give you a different perspective.

Their are certainly branches from the Islamic sects, Sunni extremists, and those of history that branched from the Assassins Islamic sect but the Quran does not teach anyone to murder someone.

In fact, many of the murderous islamic sects of history were anti-religiousand built very much like Freemasonic Lodges in that they were told in higher degrees that religion was a holdback meant to keep people in check. They would relinquish their religiosity for their leader that they believed was of God. In that murder then did not become sin.

These are all generalizations but Nesta Webster does touch on Islamism in her book "Secret Societies".

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

So all those "nice muslims" taking over neighborhoods in Sweden and torching streetfuls of cars in the night are all made up stories?

All those "nice muslims" that are preventing non-muslims from circulating in THEIR OWN HOME STREETS and imposing Sharia law everywhere are being kind?

I am sorry my dude, but you are drinking the koolaid. Yes, some muslims are relatively civilized. When solo among whole crowds of "strangers"... or is it VILE INFIDELS?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Yes, some muslims are relatively civilized.

Well, if some Muslims are civilized, Islam must not be as malicious as it is made out to be. I never had Islam pushed on me (at least successfully), I chose it because of the rhetorical complexity of the Quran and my relationship to that complexity. I can tell you quite confidently that the Quran is not malicious, you have to jump through a lot of hoops to get a malicious outcome from the Quranic canon. Now, this doesn't mean there aren't deep cultural problems within Islamic societies which are quite often religious in nature to some extent at least and are almost unanimously sourced to Islamic apocrypha (aka hadith). You're entitled to your beliefs but I'd urge you to look at this issue with a bit more nuance. When trying to refute an idea, I'd suggest you find the smartest person advocating for that idea and argue with him. Refute his ideas in good faith instead of going for the arguments which are easy to make and "win". I think that is an important strategy regardless of what you're arguing or talking about.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

RELATIVELY civilized. I am sure some muslims don't practice much. The better muslims. I don't care about what's written in the book. I care about what its practicioners do. They destroy the world. It's bad that they do so. And they have that religion. If it were truly about "fighting evil" they wouldn't try to destroy civilization.

What you are saying is akin to "Catholic clergy is fine because the Bible speaks of doing good." While in fact it does, but that doesn't prevent the Catholic clergy from being a pedophile, homosexual mafia of money laundering and other horrendous crimes.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

"Catholic clergy is fine because the Bible speaks of doing good."

I have no problem with Catholicism either. The Bible speaks of doing good and they're Christian. I'm only being slightly facetious here ;)

Seriously though, abuse of power happens in every institution that gains power, that isn't unique to Catholicism.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

You speak of "conflating" the religion itself with its practitioners. That's my point: you seem to conflate the practitioners with the religion. We use opposite associative directions. But it was said: "you will know them by their fruit"... So these MUSLIM SAVAGES might not be MUSLIM SAVAGES BECAUSE of their religion directly. Maybe it's the Muslim clergy abusing its power and radicalizing these "poor victims of brainwashing" or however else you want to slice it.

The end result is the same: We still have hordes of muslim savages descending on the civilized world and destroying it.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

So all those "nice muslims" taking over neighborhoods in Sweden and torching streetfuls of cars in the night are all made up stories? All those "nice muslims" that are preventing non-muslims from circulating in THEIR OWN HOME STREETS and imposing Sharia law everywhere are being kind?

We're conflating a bunch of issues here I think which have nothing to do with religion. When you take in a bunch of refugees from a literal war zone, they come with a lot of baggage and mental health issues, don't you think? I think they pretty obviously do and that plays a much bigger role than anything else with any problematic behavior you may see from people taken in from war zones or who are fleeing desperate situations. When Muslim doctors and engineers immigrate, they don't cause any problems and are productive members of society and they represent the vast majority of Muslims immigrating to the West.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

OK so those muslims aren't savages BECAUSE of their religion, they are simply so, for other reasons, and their religion is just an innocent bystander. It is simply circumstantial that these savages all have that same religion. Color me doubtful.

OK so maybe they are more inclined to violence than most other people... And they happen to be muslim and it's not their fault and it's not the Quran's fault if they take it "the wrong way" because of their proclivity for violence.

Yeah, no.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

It is simply circumstantial that these savages all have that same religion. Color me doubtful.

Well, you also have Jewish savages... and Christian savages. Every group, whether religious or not, is going to have some criminals. You really can't blame the group without a higher burden of proof. We all use Saidit. If a Saidit user goes out and shoots someone tomorrow, are all Saidit users potential murderers? Either way, religion is a very broad phenomenon which crosses racial and ethnic barriers along with even cultural ones sometimes. Religious culture is often localized to various different factors including ethnicity, location and a variety of other things. A Muslim from Canada is going to think and behave very different from a Muslim from Africa and they are all going to think and behave differently from Muslims from elsewhere. Often times, cultural problems are localized to region, ethnicity and a variety of other factors, you can't just boil it down to "Muslims are evil because they have an evil religion".

It is simply circumstantial that these savages all have that same religion. Color me doubtful.

Yikes, I think you've been watching a little bit too much mainstream media for me to get through to you. Like I pointed out earlier, most Muslims who immigrate to the West are doctors and engineers, they contribute to society otherwise they wouldn't be allowed to come. I don't see how that is savagery. I mean I'm still engaging with this conversation respectfully even though I consider it quite insulting. How is that savagery? A lot do come from more poorer backgrounds. For you to think of them as savages is one thing but I think it is unfair to blame religion.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

OK well here's a little kicker for you: I have not absorbed a single piece of mainstream media in... well over 5 years. It might be 10 years, I don't know, other than the occasional, obligatory movie with wifey.

So, let's take an example, this nice 60-year-old muslim with his new 9-year-old wife, that he's going to rape while she screams her head off: https://www.bitchute.com/video/WtSlTnQ83Hq5/

You're telling me his being a Muslim HAS NOTHING TO DO with the heinous crime he's committing? That's only "his ethnic traditions" and has nothing to do with his religion huh? OK, let's say I believe you. Just imagine now that he's a Christian, living in a Christian land. He does the same, because it's "his ethnic tradition". What's going to happen to him?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You've probably only met the Trojan horse muslims then.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Their religion calls for mass slaughter of "infidels" while they are could also technically pass as christians, since their holy book mentions Jesus as the son of god.

Not really. The only militancy you'll find in Islamic theology is defensive. There is a militant component to "jihad" but it is simply religious self-defense in line with the spirit of the second amendment and this too compromises a tiny portion of what "jihad" is, jihad is just any religious struggle against evil. The most significant religious struggle is the battle against your ego. This is not me saying it, it is straight from the mouth of Muhammad according to Bukhari. Our own egos, as individuals and groups, lead us to the greatest of all evils and that is why "jihad-al-nafs" or a religious struggle against your ego or self is the primary focus of jihad. When I come on here to explain why I am a Muslim despite any potential animosity, that to me is a great religious struggle which historically falls under the banner of jihad. I say all this just to illustrate that jihad is not malicious to me and it doesn't cause me to go out and kill "infidels". I'll concede to this much, there is a militant component to jihad, I can't deny that. However, you should do some deeper research and realize that even the most deluded, militant so called "jihadi" has to create a narrative of defensive warfare to give any theological credibility to their rhetoric

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Well, they certainly do. In the end, that's pretty much all that matters.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well, they certainly do. In the end, that's pretty much all that matters.

Do what? Who is they? I can't even understand this response.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sorry I was very tired. Muslims commit atrocities in the name of Islam. Here are a few short clips for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcs-M_cJy2U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfKLV6rmLxE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNseMjQkxvI

[–]BreedersAreScum 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A show about gay black Jewish IDF soldiers killing str8 white gentile male terrorists would be incredible.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Haven't the Jews said that Islam is THEIR weapon against the white West though?

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I know that Israel despises Saudi Arabia and would gladly have the US turn on them, that's why the "Saudi Hijackers" had Mossad handlers. Read ISIPS's Securing the Realm documents written by prominent Us neoconservative Jews in the US for the Likud party.

Nevertheless, Saudi Arabia is a craphole full of human right abuses.

There is a war on Islam. And Zionosts are directing it. That war is having muslims fight Christians at all costs.

Read Enver Masud's book The War on Islam. Masud knows who did 9/11.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well yeah, the Jews never fight their own wars. Unless they have .50cal, 8x scoped sniper rifles, jet fighter planes, nukes and tanks against stone-throwing teenagers. That they will do.

Speaking about the war against / with the muslims, where do you figure the nuke detonated in Yemen came from? One of the 7 sold by the Clinton lady of murder? Another one of those might be the one used in the Ukraine, another in China? That's 4 small nukes to go, my guess...