Covid is still a hoax, people.

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[–]WooWhoVintage 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

"Survival of the fittest" is a phrase that originated from Darwinian evolutionary theory

So I find it amazing how people that believe the most in Darwin fight against allowing Darwinian principles to happen. We should just keep moving forward and let any disease run its course. Those who will live will live and those who will die will die.

[–]galaxybrain 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Darwinian theory is simply survival of the good enough to pass on their genes. To procreate. It has sod-all to do with how fit they are.

Let's not see evolution as some perfect filter; especially in the human space, where we can overcome many of our shortcomings through supplements, medicine and surgery.

If you want to get back in to the arguments about "fittest", then we're going to the classic eugenics arguments made 50+ years ago. Nothing new.

[–]WooWhoVintage 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

It is survival of the fittest. If Covid-1984 kills you then you don't get to procreate and pass on your genes.

[–]galaxybrain 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

What about a guy who donated to a sperm bank a while back?

In this day and age, you can be stone-cold dead and pass on your genes

[–]WooWhoVintage 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

All I'm saying is let diseases run their course.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

we can use civilzation to help make sure humanity doesn't go extinct. We never would have survived things like the black plague, spanish flu and polio if humans hadn't taken actions.

[–]WooWhoVintage 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The problem is we've been surviving things like the Black Plague for more than 50 thousand years. We've been dealing with diseases long before ancient Mesopotamia.

[–]galaxybrain 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yeah, that's something else, and I basically agree that's the likely outcome in this case.. we can do what we want against this disease, but eventually it's probably going to kill all the people it was going to kill.

After all, we still don't have a vaccine for SARS-CoV, and that outbreak started in 2002

[–]WooWhoVintage 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I did some personal research about "Coronaviruses" and was surprised to discover:

  • 1. In any given year, up to 33% of cases of the common Cold are caused Cronaviruses and not the traditional Rhinoviruses.
  • 2. Scientists have known about Coronaviruses since 1930 and they've been studying them in humans since the 1960s

This is nothing new that we have... There's always been a multitude of Cold viruses and there will never be a cure for the common Cold. So... In my opinion we should just cut the crap and get on with living our lives.

[–]galaxybrain 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not disagreeing with any of that post, just to be clear... It's definitely correct, I was just saying that "survival of the fittest" is something that's often misused..

This virus may not be defeatable in any traditional sense, and that's something we'll have to live (or die) with

I appreciate you taking the time to actually respond, so I could explain myself.. it's already more than most people on Reddit do

You're also right about the "common cold" being sometimes caused by coronaviruses and not rhinoviruses these days, I've heard that myself, which also surprised me, because I'd been taught the cold was a rhinovirus

[–]Kimgeik 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The common cold is a coronavirus. There's also a few other strains of coronavirus, one of which is pretty lethal for older people. Covid-19 is a new coronavirus. It is new. To say covid-19 isn't new because the common cold is a coronavirus too is like saying a cold sore and genital herpes are the same since they're both herpesvirus. Covid-19, or SARS-Cov-2, is more closely related to SARS than the common cold and we can all be massively relieved it isn't as lethal. Though SARS wasn't nearly as infectious.

[–]WooWhoVintage 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

New or old. It wasn't any worse than the flu or the common cold.

[–]anarchy753 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Our species has evolved to the point where we can pass on genes more reliably that JUST being able to have sex and have a child at the current moment. We also keep people alive through medicine in situations that would otherwise kill them.

As a species we've raised the evolutionary fitness of the weak links, but they're still considered fit because those options exist.